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"the camps were not public knowledge during the war" (media.scored.co)
posted 25 days ago by SwampRangers 25 days ago by SwampRangers +3 / -7
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– ReasonableComforts 2 points 11 days ago +2 / -0

The only way to proceed forward with fighting a satanic enemy

How do you know the way forward? and how do you know who the satanic enemy really is? have you ever thought you are mistaken. Perhaps you could be taken for a ride. Think about that.

it appears to me you have none and are just guessing

You just copy and paste from your database based on keywords in someone's comments. Why? our history has been either erased, or re-written. I'm absolutely, 100% sure of that. But, I'm not here to reveal to you an "alternative version" of history. I'm here to tell you it doesn't matter. If you understand what I mean good, otherwise again it doesn't make any difference.

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– SwampRangers [S] 2 points 10 days ago +2 / -0

Welcome back. Yes, I've considered that everything I know might be mistaken, and I concluded that the One Thing in which I cannot be mistaken is the One Thing that has power to keep me from being mistaken. That is, I'm fallible in everything, but I've committed myself to there being One who is infallible enough to keep me on the path. If I'm mistaken about that One it's too bad because I'm committed to him keeping me, and I've also concluded that pursuing him is better even if I'm wrong. But everything I know about that One is subject to improvement.

That One is Truth, so the enemy is any adversary of Truth (satan meaning adversary). That One is the Way, so I know the Way because the Way keeps me.

Yes, like everyone, I select from my mental database that which seems to fit what others say. My data are always improvable, and I want to know where, so I submit them for others' judgment, I have no need to hide them. If someone has an alternate view I compare it to data I've accumulated because the Truth will rise from the conflict and the lies will be defeated.

If history has been erased or rewritten, we can't trust the likes of Josephus or Sheridan or Laitman or Wikipedia, we can't know when the J was invented. If we agree on standards for detecting and defeating althist, we can know these things substantially enough to proceed. You are in a position where you like being absolutely 100% sure of things but you also cast doubt on the knowability of other things; where you posit your history but also cast doubt on another's history. If you understand how to break the double standard and be open-minded, good.

If "it doesn't matter", then it also doesn't matter if I get it wrong, or if I understand you. But you act like it does matter, which means it matters to learn the rules of Truth and apply them to getting history right. There are only two ways to understand "it doesn't matter", one being that nothing matters, and one being that at least One Thing matters, and you always have the choice between those two.

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– ReasonableComforts 2 points 10 days ago +2 / -0

I've considered that everything I know might be mistaken … in which I cannot be mistaken is the One Thing that has power to keep me from being mistaken

This is similar to a computer coding error or technique called “recursion”. A recursive function is a function that calls itself during its execution. If handled properly it could be a technique that allows solving complex problems, and on the other hand it could lead to an infinite loop.

satan meaning adversary

This is what jews believe, so based on what and how you write, I suspect you are one. The word “satan” is the English transliteration of a Hebrew word for “adversary, one who plots against another”. In Judaism, it is understood that, as an adversary, satan acts as something of a divine prosecutor for God. However, in the New Testament satan is the prince of evil spirits, the enemy of God and of Christ, who takes the guise of an angel of light. So, in Christianity, Satan is a central figure, representing the embodiment of evil and opposition to God.

In Islam, satan is identified as the entity (a serpent in the Genesis account) that tempted Eve to eat the forbidden fruit in the Garden of Eden and was thus the catalyst for the fall of humankind.

If history has been erased or rewritten, we can't trust the likes of Josephus or Sheridan or Laitman or Wikipedia

I don’t know about you, but I don’t trust anyone regardless. I question everything, especially the Wikipedia. But using critical thinking, and using other techniques like reasoning from first principles, I am able to navigate through the web of their lies. And eventually I manage to connect the dots.

BTW they don’t always lie to hide the truth, many times they do that by omitting things, for instance leaving out important information like The Book of Enoch, The Book of Jasher, The Book of Jubilees to name a couple, from the Bible. Even thou these so-called books were referred to by the writers of both OT and NT. That means these writers were aware of these writings and considered them important. Why were they left out? I believe because it contains information on the fallen angels, the gates of hell and Mount Hermon.

If "it doesn't matter", then it also doesn't matter if I get it wrong, or if I understand you

Correct.

Based on the information found in these three books left out of the Bible, the ones I mentioned above, I’ll say again it doesn’t matter “to learn the rules of Truth and apply them to getting history right “. It’s not important for our fight. It's just another distraction.

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– SwampRangers [S] 0 points 10 days ago +1 / -1

recursion

Not at all, it's joots. Since I can't be perfect, it's not on me to be perfect, so I've gone all in on someone else being perfect. That doesn't stop the possibility of me being wrong, but nothing does.

I suspect you are one

I'm accused of being a lot of things, but what I am is a Messianic Gentile, a covenantal Christian who learned the Hebrew roots of the faith. Christians use Hebrew, Aramaic, and Greek when they're more accurate than English; the satan is the (lead) adversary of God. You act like OT and NT are opposed to each other, but that's not a Christian teaching.

But using critical thinking, and using other techniques like reasoning from first principles, I am able to navigate through the web of their lies. And eventually I manage to connect the dots.

Excellent! Two users of critical thinking and reason should come to the same conclusions on any point sooner or later. The primary reason folks today don't know that Enoch and Jasher were primary sources for Bible writers (with Jubilees a bit more of a parallel source) is that we promote the protocanon so much that people cease to ask questions about anything else. Over time the covenant people had many books (we still do) and only the books of the protocanon bubbled up to be recognized as having a level of inspiration that the "apocrypha" never got recognized as having, and that's primarily due to qualitative differences it the books that can be demonstrated. But that means people lost the apocryphal background that had informed people earlier in the covenants. We might also argue that beyond attrition there was suppression of spiritual warfare tactics shown therein, but in time we're recovering those too.

Based on the information found in these three books left out of the Bible, the ones I mentioned above, I’ll say again it doesn’t matter “to learn the rules of Truth and apply them to getting history right “. It’s not important for our fight.

Not sure why that follows. The rules of Truth are primarily about critical thinking and reason. I'd expect an Enoch reader to be more demanding of absolute Truth, such as in history. But if you want to trust Enoch above its usual level today (and we know Peter and Jude deferred to him), be my guest. I'm not sure why that changes much. The enemy is still the satans and watchers and their minions, the spirits by their nature, and the humans sometimes by genetics but always by voluntary relationship.

So yes it's got Babylonian roots in part, but if you act like a race of humans is automatically guilty from birth, or like a meme about 109 nations is as good as Enoch, I might ask you to apply critical thinking and reason.

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– ReasonableComforts 2 points 7 days ago +2 / -0

Messianic Gentile, a covenantal Christian

You can call yourself anything you like, I still say you are a jew. Or you prefer "Ieu" or "Iewe". And you can call the “One who is infallible enough to keep me on the path”, Jesus, Iesus, Lord, King of Kings, Holy One of Israel, etc. if it makes you feel better. And if that’s what you want, by all means keep promoting Judeo-Christianity (whatever that means).

You act like OT and NT are opposed to each other, but that's not a Christian teaching

I don’t care about what you call “Christian teaching”. As far as I’m concerned, it’s designed to confuse & brainwash people. Let me ask you something, why did the Rothschilds Cabal choose to name the land, home for jews in Palestine, Israel? And don’t give me “The Old Testament”, or “Torah” argument, it’s a waste of time. Most if not all the Zionists that pushed for the creation of the state of Israel were atheists, or as some define themselves as satanists. Including Theodore Hertzl, considered the father of Zionism, who was an atheist all his life. Why not call this new nation Judea, it would have been more appropriate… or any other name, but Israel.

I'd expect an Enoch reader to be more demanding of absolute Truth, such as in history

Why? History has nothing to do with absolute truth. “History Is Written by the Victors” – some attributed the quote to Winston Churchill, others to Hermann Göring. Either way George Orwell wrote something similar years earlier.

So yes it's got Babylonian roots in part

All of it is Babylonian. Going back to the kingdom of Nimrod, the first freemason.

but if you act like a race of humans is automatically guilty from birth

I’m sure you’re familiar with “As above so below”. But, that’s not the complete phrase, it is: “As above, so below; as below, so above,” symbolizing a snake eating its own tail as a driver of hermetic alchemical magic. I believe it’s a set of non-humans who are using a subset of humans to create what Philip K Dick called it the “Black Iron Prison”.

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