IDK, what example you could understand. In a car, alternator is a necessary part. But you still could drive a car without alternator for some time using battery. Same here.
Church could lose apostolic succession for multiple reasons, but if it will not be restored, this church will eventually degrade to what we see in Rome now. That does not mean that apostolic asuccession prevent degradation.
Car could have perfectly working alternator, but completely broken engine.
Church also have to had "alternator and a place for it" in the first place. You can't create a Church without apostolic succession. Since there is no any apostoles currently around, creation of a new Church is not possible.
Church is a car that could drive you to salvation, if you will use it according to original user manual. It is a long road, you have to fill tank, replace brake pads, fix broken parts and change tires, oil, brake fluid and so on. Only if you do all of that things, not ones you want, but all of them, you will be able to reach your destination far away. You will not be able to reach destination if you don't have alternator, or tires, or transmission, or engine. You will not able to reach destination if you don't dare to fix broken parts.
Hope this analogy is simple enough to get what is Church, and why old Orthodox car, being older than all other, newer shiny and comfortable ones, still running fine and with highest probability will reach its destination with as many passengers as would choose to join.
But that's exactly what your Church is founded on.
It is a blatant lie. Russian Orthodox Church is one of direct descendants of Bizantine Church, which was founded by Apostole Andrey. Apostolic sucession of Russian Orthodox Church is perfectly documented right to Apostole Andrey. You could track any priest of Russian Orthodox Church, Old russian Orthodox Church and Russian Orthodox Church Abroad right to the hand of Apostole Andrey. Same with all other existing Orthodox Churches.
If you don't know such basic thing about Orthodox Church, then why did you started this topic in the first place?
I'm talking about your Jesus-God there. You're blatantly ignoring what I wrote to construct a straw-man argument against me.
Those who insist that Jesus is not God are not Christians. Highly probaly they are Jews. Muslims and others are much more delicate and wise to not do that in talks with Christians. And there is no any sense to argue about anything with a Jew.
You will know the tree by its fruits. Look around and choose the surroundig for yourself. Small tip. If you see any open LGBTXYZ shit around - that's definitely not the place where True Church prevail.
Back in 380 CE, your Church forced converted the people of the Roman empire to itself. Throughout its history, your Church has killed its religious opposition.
You don't even know history. Catholic church have nothing to do with Orthodox Church. They was even started by different apostoles in different places. Catholics and Orthodoxes communicated before the schism, but schism ended that finally.
You stated a Church cannot be created without apostolic succession, so where was the apostolic succession prior to Jesus
There was no apostoles before Jesus. Jesus, being God started it with His Apostoles. He don't need any apostoles to share His grace with Him.
Yes, it is necessary.
IDK, what example you could understand. In a car, alternator is a necessary part. But you still could drive a car without alternator for some time using battery. Same here.
Church could lose apostolic succession for multiple reasons, but if it will not be restored, this church will eventually degrade to what we see in Rome now. That does not mean that apostolic asuccession prevent degradation.
Car could have perfectly working alternator, but completely broken engine.
Church also have to had "alternator and a place for it" in the first place. You can't create a Church without apostolic succession. Since there is no any apostoles currently around, creation of a new Church is not possible.
Church is a car that could drive you to salvation, if you will use it according to original user manual. It is a long road, you have to fill tank, replace brake pads, fix broken parts and change tires, oil, brake fluid and so on. Only if you do all of that things, not ones you want, but all of them, you will be able to reach your destination far away. You will not be able to reach destination if you don't have alternator, or tires, or transmission, or engine. You will not able to reach destination if you don't dare to fix broken parts.
Hope this analogy is simple enough to get what is Church, and why old Orthodox car, being older than all other, newer shiny and comfortable ones, still running fine and with highest probability will reach its destination with as many passengers as would choose to join.
It is a blatant lie. Russian Orthodox Church is one of direct descendants of Bizantine Church, which was founded by Apostole Andrey. Apostolic sucession of Russian Orthodox Church is perfectly documented right to Apostole Andrey. You could track any priest of Russian Orthodox Church, Old russian Orthodox Church and Russian Orthodox Church Abroad right to the hand of Apostole Andrey. Same with all other existing Orthodox Churches.
If you don't know such basic thing about Orthodox Church, then why did you started this topic in the first place?
Those who insist that Jesus is not God are not Christians. Highly probaly they are Jews. Muslims and others are much more delicate and wise to not do that in talks with Christians. And there is no any sense to argue about anything with a Jew.
You will know the tree by its fruits. Look around and choose the surroundig for yourself. Small tip. If you see any open LGBTXYZ shit around - that's definitely not the place where True Church prevail.
You don't even know history. Catholic church have nothing to do with Orthodox Church. They was even started by different apostoles in different places. Catholics and Orthodoxes communicated before the schism, but schism ended that finally.
There was no apostoles before Jesus. Jesus, being God started it with His Apostoles. He don't need any apostoles to share His grace with Him.