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The Bible vs Eastern Orthodoxy (www.youtube.com)
posted 285 days ago by TurnToGodNow 285 days ago by TurnToGodNow +4 / -0
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– TurnToGodNow [S] 4 points 285 days ago +4 / -0

Those of us trusting in Christ as Lord are saved. It is sanctification that is the ongoing process.

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– SmithW1984 4 points 285 days ago +4 / -0

Salvation is a process that spans our entire lives until our very last breath (and even after that through prayers and intercession of the living). No one is pronounced saved until the Last Judgment. Anyone who claims to be saved is in delusion. Do you really believe that people who profess faith in Christ will be saved if they don't repent and don't follow His command but persist in their sin, choosing death over life? I'm sure He says otherwise.

21 “Not everyone who says to Me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ shall enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father in heaven. 22 Many will say to Me in that day, ‘Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in Your name, cast out demons in Your name, and done many wonders in Your name?’ 23 And then I will declare to them, ‘I never knew you; depart from Me, you who practice lawlessness!’

Matthew 7:21-23

20 At that day you will know that I am in My Father, and you in Me, and I in you. 21 He who has My commandments and keeps them, it is he who loves Me. And he who loves Me will be loved by My Father, and I will love him and [a]manifest Myself to him.”

John 14:20-22

15“If you love Me, you will keep My commandments.

John 14:15

Professing your love without manifesting it through your actions is fake and gay. If you truly love Christ you will follow His commandments and His Church. Imagine saying to your wife "I love you" and then treating her like a piece of trash and beating her up. It's meaningless and contradictory.

But protestants truly believe that and have some weird notion of splitting their mind from their body, where their mind professes the faith and is saved, and their body does all kinds of degeneracy as if they're not accountable for it by having free will. "Christ is my Lord and I'm saved, but my stupid gay body can't help going to gay bars on friday nights and doing cocaine until sunrise." This is truly schizophrenic. Such a dangerous spiritual delusion to believe salvation is as easy as signing a legal contract. If only it were that easy...

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– TurnToGodNow [S] 2 points 283 days ago +2 / -0

15“If you love Me, you will keep My commandments.

If you think this means salvation happens at the death bed after keeping all commandments daily, then you must think the Book of Acts is full of zombies. Because people are referred to as "saved", past tense. Not "maybe saved on their deathbed, we hope, maybe some day".

In Acts Chapter 16 we see the passage called "The Philippian Jailer Saved". Did they make a mistake, and it should be called "Philippian Jailer could be maybe saved many years later on his death bed?" "Philippian Jailer was moved in the right direction, no idea if he got saved, who cares?"

Acts 15 also deals with salvation. Peter states to the council:

giving them the Holy Ghost, even as he did unto us; ...purifying their hearts by faith.

Now therefore why tempt ye God, to put a yoke upon the neck of the disciples, which neither our fathers nor we were able to bear? But we believe that through the grace of the Lord Jesus Christ we shall be saved, even as they.

Where is wake up everyday unsure and maybe when you die you are saved?

Your only out is attacking scripture. "Well who compiled these texts..." argument.

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