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Why are people so worked up about 3I/ATLAS? Has anyone looked at the trajectory
posted 90 days ago by iloveturtles 90 days ago by iloveturtles +9 / -0

Comet 3I/ATLAS is not expected to get very close to Earth; the closest it will come is approximately 1.8 astronomical units (about 170 million miles or 270 million kilometers)

https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:3I_ATLAS_animation3.gif

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– SwampRangers 3 points 90 days ago +5 / -2

Because it's only the third intergalactic object ever discovered and because it's going so close to Mars while behind the sun that it could swing suddenly (but won't) so there's hypeability.

The real conspiracy is that intergalactics prove young universe simply by their low count. Nobody's talking about that! Everyone's trying instead to get ahead of how intergalactics can prove a crazy Oort cloud or dark matter or other invented gods to patch gaps in the astrophysical model.

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– guywholikesDjtof2024 4 points 90 days ago +4 / -0

Elaborate

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– SwampRangers 3 points 88 days ago +3 / -0

Well, first let me apologize for the haste, because I often dash off quickies for the benefit of c/Conspiracies to see who's interested. In this case I meant interstellar but miscalculated and said intergalactic instead.

Since young-earth proponents favor the accretion hypothesis of star-planet-satellite formation, they have no problem extending this to comets. Old-earth proponents are stuck arguing that all these things existed for billions of years and didn't wear down, leading to numerous difficulties (e.g. Oort cloud); in this case their presupposition requires that the interstellar comet arose from a star system sometime rather than accreting like a rogue planet did. Similarly their assumptions require that stars are constantly being newly born but that the first stars were stuck with being H-He only, except that we don't really have any stars of that nature so it's a (yet another) imagination created to fill in a gap in the theory. And of course this relies heavily on the greatest god of the gaps of this age, dark energy and dark matter!

Anyway, if we did have 10-20 billion years then there should have been many more collisions and escapes that would free many more interstellar objects. In terms of rogue planets, the mainstream is estimating that the number of rogue planets per star is somewhere between 0.25 and 100,000. Quite a margin of error there, indicating that the model for formation of material outside solar systems is thoroughly unsettled. It's my prediction that as we discover more of both rogue planets and interstellar objects, we will see numbers heavily weighted toward one end, I believe paucity, and this will force the mainstream to revise their picture once again.

It turns out that NASA is already on top of resolving such questions (despite its bias), planning to launch the Roman Telescope in 2027, which will produce very interesting information about "extra-solar planets ... chronology of the universe and growth of cosmic structure, ... dark energy, the consistency of general relativity, and the curvature of spacetime." Looking forward to it surprising the mainstream!

Looking more into 3I/ATLAS, it turns out to be the first (of 3) to approach from the sun's south, which basically means it's overtaking the sun as they both travel around the Milky Way core (Sagittarius A*). This was thoroughly unexpected and it either means 3I is an outlier that should've been rare or (yet again) the model was wrong to start with and southern approach is more common than predicted. Well, with so much that is unknown about interstellars and rogue planets, it's safe to say that I think there's a high likelihood that southern approach will continue to be detected more often than current models predict.

While much of that is new to me, my initial comment was based on the fact that whenever I peel back the Tyson-Nye facade of modern science I find guesswork upon imagination upon horror movie. (Yes, I literally just discovered that Fred Hoyle based his steady-state theory upon a horror movie, Dead of Night 1945, based on Hindu cyclicality.) So I could confidently predict that such anomalies appear when I look at this one, and there they are. People want interstellar objects to mean evidence of an origin other than Yahweh, but other classes of objects keep testifying of their true Creator instead, and so it will be seen with interstellars.

So the Bible is true and the universe really was created recently for the purpose of humanity developing an internet where they could argue over the Jews.

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– guywholikesDjtof2024 3 points 88 days ago +3 / -0

u/commanderofcheese Thoughts on this one?

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– CommanderOfCheese 1 point 88 days ago +1 / -0

It's true that what we understand about star/ planet formation is still very much in a hypothesis phase, but it's not pure spitballing -- we do have quite a bit of data on star formation.

But just because numbers of interstellar objects aren't exactly what one particular model predicted doesn't mean that you roll back to a YEC model that doesn't actually make any predictions.

His point about numbers of interstellars is... well, pointless. They're really hard to see. Heck, it's only recently we're even seeing some of the stuff that's in our own solar system.

Long story short this guy is talking out of his ass and you're eating it up because he's saying (without real evidence) that it supports your view of a young earth.

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– TallestSkil -1 points 89 days ago +3 / -4

It’s a paid shill. Don’t listen to anything it says.

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– guywholikesDjtof2024 2 points 89 days ago +2 / -0

Paid

Who is giving out the checks? What currency? How much money? Does it earn it weekly, monthly, or yearly?

And how can others come to this conclusion?

shill

For what?

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– TallestSkil 3 points 89 days ago +4 / -1

Who is giving out the checks?

Israel.

What currency?

Whichever; they own all of them.

How much money?

50¢ per post, per the leaked documents.

For what?

White genocide and the eradication of Christendom.

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