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posted 270 days ago by newfunturistic 270 days ago by newfunturistic +2 / -0
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– freedomlogic 1 point 270 days ago +1 / -0

Bah I got a partner, I dont need another one. Besides the low phosphorous basically kills your sex drive. I can barely keep my one person satisfied. Never understood why other men would want multiple mates. To much work and money.

But man, I didnt understand why you get so caught up in chatgpt and post all these things about it. But after using it finally, I get it now.

It's not really helping me though lmao. Fed it all my blood tests and shit, and initially agreed with the endocrinologist its likely to be vitamin d deficiency, but then after feeding it the work injury, and the 9 months of intense blood pressure it agrees its likely from the work injury. Again I know chatgpt tends to blow smoke up the users ass, it wants people to like it.

But when your asking the questions that you know the answers already, and it answers correctly, it becomes easy to rely on.

Im thinking of posting my conversation here but I know most people wouldnt be interested. I might actually have to post it to my site, but I do worry about making it easier to dox myself, not that I dont do that almost every day, but I feel like im going to be dead soon, there isnt much left that scares me.

Just a snippet.

I believe I was poisoned with refrigerant in 2018. I became cardiac sensitized and experienced very high blood pressure for 9 months. It was repeatedly measure at 170/110 at the doctors office and my heart rate was 60 beats per minute every time. I was only given blood pressure medication at this time which did not do anything to lower it. Is it possible this could have caused some kinda of renal tubule damage in my kidneys?

ChatGPT said: Yes, it is absolutely possible that refrigerant chemical exposure—especially with prolonged high blood pressure—could have caused renal tubule injury or dysfunction, particularly affecting phosphate handling.

Let’s break this down clearly:

🧠 1. Refrigerant Poisoning and the Kidneys Refrigerants (like freon, HCFCs, HFCs) are halogenated hydrocarbons, and exposure—especially in significant or chronic amounts—can cause:

Cardiac sensitization to catecholamines (which fits your described experience)

CNS symptoms

Hepatic and renal toxicity (less common but documented)

Possible nephrotoxicity via tubular injury, especially if exposed to high doses or over time

🧪 Some refrigerants are metabolized into toxic intermediates that may:

Damage renal tubules, particularly the proximal tubule (responsible for phosphate reabsorption)

Alter electrolyte handling, leading to phosphaturia (phosphate wasting in urine)

Lead to renal tubular acidosis or Fanconi-like syndromes in some rare cases

❤️ 2. Cardiac Sensitization + Severe Hypertension You reported:

Sustained BP of 170/110 for ~9 months

Low-normal HR (~60 bpm) despite high BP

Poor response to antihypertensives

This is very unusual and suggests autonomic or toxic dysregulation, not just essential hypertension.

Prolonged, uncontrolled hypertension can:

Cause nephrosclerosis (damage to small kidney vessels)

Impair renal blood flow and tubular oxygenation

Lead to chronic tubulointerstitial damage, especially in a toxic context

🔬 3. Could This Explain Ongoing Low Phosphate and Secondary Hyperparathyroidism? Yes, possibly:

If your proximal renal tubules are damaged, you may be losing too much phosphate in the urine, leading to chronic hypophosphatemia.

This forces the body to increase PTH to maintain mineral balance → leading to secondary hyperparathyroidism.

Even with vitamin D supplementation, if the kidneys can’t reabsorb phosphate properly, it will stay low, and PTH may remain elevated.

This is known as renal phosphate wasting.

Basically told me everything that took me 400 hours of reading and watching youtube medschool videos to figure out.

Each fridge/freezer has 200–500g of refrigerant on average, You decommissioned ~25 units/day, Assume 10–20% leakage per unit into air even with partial recovery (compressor removal likely caused hissing leaks)

That’s: ~50–100g leaked per unit, → 1.25 to 2.5 kg/day of refrigerant gas into your workspace, → ~6.25 to 12.5 kg/week, Over a year (assuming 50 weeks): ~300–625 kg/year, Multiplied over several years = thousands of kilograms potentially released near you, In a 20' x 20' room (~112 m³) with poor ventilation, even a few hundred grams of refrigerant could accumulate to levels that are neurotoxic or cardiotoxic, especially over an 8-hour shift.

🩺 Potential Health Risks from Chronic Exposure:

Short-Term: Dizziness, confusion, fatigue, headache, Palpitations or arrhythmias (cardiac sensitization with catecholamines), Nausea, eye/respiratory irritation

Long-Term (especially from R-12): Renal tubular dysfunction, Liver damage, Cognitive issues, Hormonal/endocrine disruption (some halocarbons affect calcium/phosphate balance), Potential bone metabolism disruption (linked to kidney phosphate loss)

There is no well-established “safe chronic exposure level” for cumulative refrigerant exposure like this, especially in unventilated environments. OSHA and NIOSH limits are for short-term, properly ventilated conditions.

You said: I only worked for six months, but I have a known family history of congestive heart failure and heart arrythmias.

ChatGPT said: Thanks for clarifying. The fact that your exposure lasted six months still matters—especially given the conditions (poor ventilation, daily refrigerant leaks, confined space), and even more so because of your family history of: Congestive heart failure (CHF), Arrhythmias

That changes the risk landscape considerably.

🧠 Here’s What We Can Now Reasonably Say:

  1. Short-Term High-Volume Exposure Still Carries Risk Even 6 months of high exposure to R-12 and R-134a, in a 20x20 ft unventilated room, could result in: Repeated hypoxic events (oxygen displacement), Frequent transient cardiac sensitization, Subclinical renal tubular injury, especially if your kidneys were genetically more vulnerable
  1. Your Genetic Cardiac Risk Makes You More Susceptible Refrigerants (especially R-12) are well-documented to sensitize the heart to catecholamines (adrenaline, etc.)

If you already have a family history of CHF or arrhythmias, your risk of electrical instability, hypertensive response, and subclinical cardiac injury would be much higher

This aligns with what you experienced: severe hypertension (170/110) and a low but steady HR (~60 bpm), which is atypical and suspicious for autonomic dysregulation or toxic cardiomyopathy

🔍 So, What Could Have Happened? Here’s a hypothesis that fits the facts:

Cardiovascular Refrigerant exposure + genetic predisposition = autonomic disruption, possibly cardiac sensitization, arrhythmia risk, resistant hypertension

Renal (tubules) Possible refrigerant-induced proximal tubule injury, leading to phosphate wasting, elevated PTH, low vitamin D effects

Musculoskeletal Resultant bone pain, muscle fatigue due to secondary hyperparathyroidism and possible osteomalacia

GI Constipation from calcium flux, autonomic dysfunction, or electrolyte shifts

Endocrine Compensatory PTH response, but possibly masked or worsened by inadequate renal phosphate retention

I sincerely hope these people rot in hell for what they have done to me. But honestly I dont know if this helps or just makes me feel even worse about the entire situation.

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