"Israel isn't the real church and the Catholics are not real Christians."
This is the exact same sort of counter argument against reality where "they are not the real LGBTQ+ people, we are the real LBGTQ+ people" or "Stalin Mao and Pol Pot failed in communism."
And I keep seeing protestants and evangelists here falling for it.
It's the exact same counter argument that diverts everyone from the reality that an ideology that preaches killing everyone who exhibits even the slightest sense of free will and denies proper hiygene as Satanic drivel killed trillions within a millennia in Europe and is spreading the bodycount worldwide.
It's denial of reality in its most severe form and the bodycounts are intentional.
No, it's not, because the Church and its doctrines are historical and not to be made up on the spot to fulfill a political agenda. And just because it's also used that way by bad actors, doesn't mean it reflects the reality of the Christian tradition.
You're making a false equivalence simply because you believe Christianity to be an ideology and you oppose ideologies. So that's a category error too.
So the statement "Israel isn't the real church and the Catholics are not real Christians" is correct. The state of Israel is not the real Church and it never has been - this is a demented zionist interpretation that's not based on history or scripture. Catholics claim they have apostolic succession and are indeed the true Church of Christ who ordained Peter as its leader and who sent the Holy Spirit at Pentecost upon the apostles. So at least there's historicity and coherency behind their claim but still they officially fell away from the Church in 1054.
"Israel isn't the real church and the Catholics are not real Christians."
This is the exact same sort of counter argument against reality where "they are not the real LGBTQ+ people, we are the real LBGTQ+ people" or "Stalin Mao and Pol Pot failed in communism."
And I keep seeing protestants and evangelists here falling for it.
It's the exact same counter argument that diverts everyone from the reality that an ideology that preaches killing everyone who exhibits even the slightest sense of free will and denies proper hiygene as Satanic drivel killed trillions within a millennia in Europe and is spreading the bodycount worldwide.
It's denial of reality in its most severe form and the bodycounts are intentional.
No, it's not, because the Church and its doctrines are historical and not to be made up on the spot to fulfill a political agenda. And just because it's also used that way by bad actors, doesn't mean it reflects the reality of the Christian tradition.
You're making a false equivalence simply because you believe Christianity to be an ideology and you oppose ideologies. So that's a category error too.
So the statement "Israel isn't the real church and the Catholics are not real Christians" is correct. The state of Israel is not the real Church and it never has been - this is a demented zionist interpretation that's not based on history or scripture. Catholics claim they have apostolic succession and are indeed the true Church of Christ who ordained Peter as its leader and who sent the Holy Spirit at Pentecost upon the apostles. So at least there's historicity and coherency behind their claim but still they officially fell away from the Church in 1054.