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I wonder if they're gonna start using AI to do fake presenters, plus the claims that would just be "preposterous". But this one.. so what's going on here.. synthetic B12 they put in energy drinks they get from raw sewage treatment plants, "for free"? (cdn.videy.co)
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– free-will-of-choice 2 points 55 days ago +2 / -0

More damaging than what could be put into it, is the idea of "drinking energy" held within ones mind. Why? Because holding onto contradicts drawing/drinking from.

Ingredients distract from whole. Why? Whole sets apart, which is how energy works, while ingredients are mixed together.

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– newfunturistic [S] 2 points 55 days ago +2 / -0

Ran that video through this good video to text site that does better than youtube automated closed captions. Check if the transcription is like what you hear or they type in the video. I'm using this old bookmark. It's pretty good.

https://tinywow.com/video/to-text

I've uploaded hours long videos and it can handle it.

Then I asked google gemini AI what it thought about that text.


ran a presentation video through video to text.. got this text.. so there could be misspellings. Let's see what you got to say about these claims.


Celsius energy drink, Celsius energy drink has four times the amount of daily cyanide

that human beings meant to ingest, four times, that's just one sample. So drink monster

or bang, I mean drink bang, not monster or Celsius, right? Bang has methyl covalum and

this has cyanocovalum. And we wonder what, you know, we're putting these toxic chemicals,

he says, you know, where we get the hydrogen cyanide? Don't make me take you to that website

because you'll just get up and leave. You know where we would get hydrogen cyanide

because these facilities that actually compound this P12, they don't even pay for the hydrogen

cyanide. You know where they get it? Human sewage treatment plants, it is the waste

from a human sewage treatment plant called sludge. It's foamy yellow sludge, they scrape

it off the top, they dry it, turn it into a powder, ship it to a facility, synthesize

it with a metal and put it in your vitamins. They take metal, hydrogen cyanide and put

it in our supplements.


That's quite a list of claims! Let's break them down and see what's what.

First off, the idea that Celsius energy drink has four times the daily amount of cyanide that humans are meant to ingest sounds alarming. However, cyanide is not something humans are "meant to ingest" at all. It's a toxic chemical, and any ingestion can be harmful depending on the dose. It's crucial to understand the form of cyanide being discussed. The speaker seems to be conflating different chemical compounds.

The claim then pivots to Bang energy drinks containing "methyl covalum" and Celsius containing "cyanocovalum." It seems the speaker might be referring to methylcobalamin and cyanocobalamin, which are forms of vitamin B12.

Cyanocobalamin is a common and stable form of vitamin B12 that contains a cyanide molecule bound to the cobalt ion at the center of the vitamin. However, the amount of cyanide in a typical dose of cyanocobalamin is very small and is not considered harmful. In the body, it's converted into active forms of B12. Methylcobalamin is another naturally occurring form of vitamin B12. The speaker then makes a shocking claim about the source of hydrogen cyanide used in the production of vitamin B12, suggesting it comes from human sewage treatment plant sludge. This claim is highly improbable and not supported by scientific understanding of pharmaceutical manufacturing processes.

Here's why this claim is likely false:

Manufacturing Standards: Pharmaceutical and supplement manufacturing is highly regulated. The idea that a company would source a toxic chemical like hydrogen cyanide from sewage sludge and use it in products meant for human consumption is extremely unlikely and would violate numerous health and safety regulations. Chemical Synthesis: While cyanide compounds are used in some chemical syntheses, they are typically produced through controlled industrial processes using specific chemical reactions, not by extracting them from waste products. Purity and Safety: The production of pharmaceutical-grade ingredients requires high levels of purity. Using raw materials from sewage sludge would introduce a multitude of contaminants and make it virtually impossible to achieve the necessary purity for safe human consumption. In summary:

The comparison of cyanide levels in Celsius to a supposed "meant to ingest" amount is misleading because cyanide is toxic. The speaker likely meant cyanocobalamin (a form of vitamin B12) when mentioning "cyanocovalum." The small amount of cyanide in cyanocobalamin is not harmful. The claim that hydrogen cyanide used in vitamin B12 production comes from human sewage sludge is highly improbable and lacks any scientific basis. It's important to be critical of information, especially when it sounds sensational or uses strong emotional language. Always look for reliable sources and scientific evidence before accepting such claims as fact.


so there's no reports of them getting this stuff, drying it.. etc.


You are absolutely correct. Based on the information available regarding the manufacturing of cyanocobalamin (a common form of vitamin B12), the process does not involve sourcing materials from sewage sludge.

Here's a summary of the typical cyanocobalamin production process:

Microbial Fermentation: Vitamin B12 is primarily produced through the fermentation of specific microorganisms, such as Propionibacterium shermanii and Pseudomonas denitrificans. These bacteria are cultivated in nutrient-rich media under controlled conditions. Extraction and Purification: After fermentation, the vitamin B12 is extracted from the bacterial cells and the fermentation broth through a series of steps including centrifugation, filtration, and sometimes cell lysis. Conversion to Cyanocobalamin: The naturally produced forms of vitamin B12 by these bacteria are often hydroxocobalamin, methylcobalamin, and adenosylcobalamin. To create the more stable cyanocobalamin form commonly used in supplements, a step involving the addition of a cyanide source (like potassium cyanide) is typically included during the purification process. This reaction converts other B12 vitamers into cyanocobalamin. The amount of cyanide used in this step is carefully controlled, and the final product contains a small, bound cyanide molecule that is not considered harmful in the typical dosages. Purification and Crystallization: Further purification steps, such as chromatography and crystallization, are used to obtain the final high-purity cyanocobalamin product. Key Points Regarding the False Claims:

Source of Cyanide: The cyanide used in the conversion to cyanocobalamin is typically a pure chemical compound like potassium cyanide, obtained from reputable chemical suppliers, not from waste products. Sewage Sludge: There are no credible reports or scientific literature suggesting that human sewage sludge is used as a source of hydrogen cyanide or any other materials in the production of vitamin B12 for human consumption. Pharmaceutical and supplement manufacturing adheres to strict quality and safety standards that would prohibit such practices. Methylcobalamin Production: Methylcobalamin, another form of vitamin B12, can be produced by either microbial fermentation or through the chemical conversion of cyanocobalamin. The latter process involves reducing cyanocobalamin and then adding a methylating agent, not through any process involving sewage sludge. Therefore, the claims made in the presentation video about the sourcing of materials from sewage sludge for vitamin B12 production are unfounded and contradict established knowledge of pharmaceutical manufacturing processes.

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Yeah but this stuff seems like the kind of thing these cabal guys would do, eh. This twisted stuff.. of like with the sewage. Where else have we seen them do nasty stuff like this, eh.

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– free-will-of-choice 2 points 55 days ago +2 / -0

highly regulated

Yet to remain high others have to be kept low...hence the use of regulation from the top down.

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