Once you find something interesting, what prevents you to backup an article or thread or whatever page on your own computer effectively protecting it from erasing and available to reposting where you think it will be apropriate?
There even addons for browsers that pack the page you see into one HTML page you could easily manage without dealing with multiple small files.... (one such named SingleFile addon f.e.)
Relying on other people computers for storing data you assume important is one of the worst consequences of all that centralised/social/cloud/whatever marketing.
I just went through a box of 20-year-old CDR's (written 20 years ago) and they all worked like no time had passed at all. They went through severe temperature and humidity changes too.
Too bad the cost per GB is so high.
I know I can save things on thumbdrive
They're one of the most volatile, limited-life storage options that exists.
I've lost more data on portable flash memory media (thumb drives, SD cards, etc) than anything else (since the POS 90's floppies).
Also, beyond their volatility and short life, the drives are now being designed to suicide (go into a locked read-only state) if they detect a malfunction. And, just like virtually everything else in the DEI era, that malfunction detection was designed by retards, so the drives frequently end up with false positives regarding malfunction and you end up with a perfectly good drive locked in read-only mode.
There's now software that can unlock some of the thumb drives but no such luck for the SD cards yet (that I know of).
and they use vinyl as their main source of music at home
People bought 43 million vinyl records last year, according to the Recording Industry Association of America (RIAA). That’s 6 million more than the number of CDs sold in 2023, marking the second time since 1987 that’s happened and reflecting the steady 17-year-running growth of vinyl sales.
Vinyl, which tends to be pricier than the newer format, also far outstripped CDs in actual money made, raking in $1.4 billion compared to $537 million from CDs. The RIAA’s report shows that CD revenue was up, too, but in terms of physical products sold, people actually bought about 700,000 fewer CDs in 2023 than the year before. (If you’re curious, nearly half a million cassettes sold last year, too, according to Billboard.)
Most of the Internet is already gone, so unless you've been saving everything offline up to this point, you've already mostly missed the boat.
They're clearly planning a future wipe of all consumer storage using some kind of EMP 'cyber attack', 'solar flare' or similar, and they continue the effort to phase-out (and literally shame) the ability to read older storage mediums with 'outdated' 'insecure' 'obsolete' 'non-green' (and soon 'racist') interfaces & protocols, so expect to lose the ability to read your optical storage as well.
They're now going to work on the archive sites.
Archive.org has begun inserting "misinformation" warnings for archived pages, removing millions of long-existing files under the guise of "copyright compliance" and they just partnered with Google which tells us exactly what's coming next.
I personally have many terabytes of offline webpages & files, but it doesn't even amount to one-trillionth of the information that Google & friends have horded, and are now well into the process of erasing from the Internet.
All of this is additional in-the-weeds discussion though.
The image I posted has a very specific purpose:
(1) A reminder for people who know the Internet is being erased but keep forgetting, (2) an informer for those who, somehow, didn't even notice that it's being erased (despite over 90% of Google's search results no longer existing), and (3) a reminder that all alternative technologies and services become captured shortly after they become popular (if they weren't secretly captured all along).
It is laughable number, if you are not into storing 4k multihour videostreams.
Few TB HDD is more than enough to store all important knowledge of humanity.
Storage medium lifetime and cost of replacement.
Use HDD with CMR. They last for decades.
Most of the Internet is already gone
Yes, because all was like "cool, let's save important things on the corporation computers for free!"
They're clearly planning a future wipe of all consumer storage using some kind of EMP 'cyber attack', 'solar flare' or similar, and they continue the effort to phase-out (and literally shame) the ability to read older storage mediums with 'outdated' 'insecure' 'obsolete' 'non-green' (and soon 'racist') interfaces & protocols, so expect to lose the ability to read your optical storage as well.
They have nothing even close to such abilities, unless you use some shitty OS from Apple/Google/Microsoft. With any non-mainstream Linux or FreeBSD you are perfectly safe.
Optical storage in form of user-writable CD/DVD/BD never was reliable. It is factory made ones that was printed at factory, not burned in user's drive could last for a decades, if plastic was good enough to not mist with time.
Most reliable storage is a magnetic tape. Even today it is the best you could get. Not very cheap, but extremely reliable. Then comes HDDs with traditional (CMR) recording. Pretty affordable and you still could buy CMR HDDs for affordable price.
All other storages require to be copied or rewritten from time to time. Worst are SSD's and other that use flash memory. It leaks charge in few years when not powered, so it couldnt be stored on a shelf or in safe as HDDs could.
They're now going to work on the archive sites.
Archive.org has begun inserting "misinformation" warnings for archived pages, removing millions of long-existing files under the guise of "copyright compliance" and they just partnered with Google which tells us exactly what's coming next.
That's what for archive.org was created. To force people to surrender their own local storage in favor of some online service.
I personally have many terabytes of offline webpages & files,
Good for you. Why don't you want to tell how do you store, categorise and regularize information you have? It will be much more effective than a thousand memes and screenshots.
but it doesn't even amount to one-trillionth of the information that Google & friends have horded, and are now well into the process of erasing from the Internet.
You overestimate the information amount in internet. All that consumer crowd who rushed into internet when computers and fiber become affordable added very little real information. 99% of all shit Google & friends have horded is a total, useless crap produced and consumed by normies.
Once you find something interesting, what prevents you to backup an article or thread or whatever page on your own computer effectively protecting it from erasing and available to reposting where you think it will be apropriate?
There even addons for browsers that pack the page you see into one HTML page you could easily manage without dealing with multiple small files.... (one such named SingleFile addon f.e.)
Relying on other people computers for storing data you assume important is one of the worst consequences of all that centralised/social/cloud/whatever marketing.
I still use optical media and a guy on this board made fun of me for it.
Burning dvd-r’s and cd-r’s, even BD. I made a mix CD for the summer and gave it out to my friends.
What I learned is A lot of people don’t have CD players in their car… and they use vinyl as their main source of music at home.
I have some older movies on disc that have since been altered. I’ve seen movies on streaming that omit entire scenes.
I know I can save things on thumbdrive, and I do, but I have some sort of tactical-retardism that I can’t shake.
Taking the disc out, being careful not to touch it, and putting it immediately back into it’s own case afterwards… it feels good, man.
I just went through a box of 20-year-old CDR's (written 20 years ago) and they all worked like no time had passed at all. They went through severe temperature and humidity changes too.
Too bad the cost per GB is so high.
They're one of the most volatile, limited-life storage options that exists.
I've lost more data on portable flash memory media (thumb drives, SD cards, etc) than anything else (since the POS 90's floppies).
Also, beyond their volatility and short life, the drives are now being designed to suicide (go into a locked read-only state) if they detect a malfunction. And, just like virtually everything else in the DEI era, that malfunction detection was designed by retards, so the drives frequently end up with false positives regarding malfunction and you end up with a perfectly good drive locked in read-only mode.
There's now software that can unlock some of the thumb drives but no such luck for the SD cards yet (that I know of).
Didn't know it made that much of a comeback.
I appreciate the long and thoughtful reply.
Good info on thumb drives.
Here’s some Copy pasta:
People bought 43 million vinyl records last year, according to the Recording Industry Association of America (RIAA). That’s 6 million more than the number of CDs sold in 2023, marking the second time since 1987 that’s happened and reflecting the steady 17-year-running growth of vinyl sales.
Vinyl, which tends to be pricier than the newer format, also far outstripped CDs in actual money made, raking in $1.4 billion compared to $537 million from CDs. The RIAA’s report shows that CD revenue was up, too, but in terms of physical products sold, people actually bought about 700,000 fewer CDs in 2023 than the year before. (If you’re curious, nearly half a million cassettes sold last year, too, according to Billboard.)
Cost of storage space.
Storage medium lifetime and cost of replacement.
Most of the Internet is already gone, so unless you've been saving everything offline up to this point, you've already mostly missed the boat.
They're clearly planning a future wipe of all consumer storage using some kind of EMP 'cyber attack', 'solar flare' or similar, and they continue the effort to phase-out (and literally shame) the ability to read older storage mediums with 'outdated' 'insecure' 'obsolete' 'non-green' (and soon 'racist') interfaces & protocols, so expect to lose the ability to read your optical storage as well.
They're now going to work on the archive sites.
Archive.org has begun inserting "misinformation" warnings for archived pages, removing millions of long-existing files under the guise of "copyright compliance" and they just partnered with Google which tells us exactly what's coming next.
I personally have many terabytes of offline webpages & files, but it doesn't even amount to one-trillionth of the information that Google & friends have horded, and are now well into the process of erasing from the Internet.
All of this is additional in-the-weeds discussion though.
The image I posted has a very specific purpose:
(1) A reminder for people who know the Internet is being erased but keep forgetting, (2) an informer for those who, somehow, didn't even notice that it's being erased (despite over 90% of Google's search results no longer existing), and (3) a reminder that all alternative technologies and services become captured shortly after they become popular (if they weren't secretly captured all along).
It is laughable number, if you are not into storing 4k multihour videostreams.
Few TB HDD is more than enough to store all important knowledge of humanity.
Use HDD with CMR. They last for decades.
Yes, because all was like "cool, let's save important things on the corporation computers for free!"
They have nothing even close to such abilities, unless you use some shitty OS from Apple/Google/Microsoft. With any non-mainstream Linux or FreeBSD you are perfectly safe.
Optical storage in form of user-writable CD/DVD/BD never was reliable. It is factory made ones that was printed at factory, not burned in user's drive could last for a decades, if plastic was good enough to not mist with time.
Most reliable storage is a magnetic tape. Even today it is the best you could get. Not very cheap, but extremely reliable. Then comes HDDs with traditional (CMR) recording. Pretty affordable and you still could buy CMR HDDs for affordable price.
All other storages require to be copied or rewritten from time to time. Worst are SSD's and other that use flash memory. It leaks charge in few years when not powered, so it couldnt be stored on a shelf or in safe as HDDs could.
That's what for archive.org was created. To force people to surrender their own local storage in favor of some online service.
Good for you. Why don't you want to tell how do you store, categorise and regularize information you have? It will be much more effective than a thousand memes and screenshots.
You overestimate the information amount in internet. All that consumer crowd who rushed into internet when computers and fiber become affordable added very little real information. 99% of all shit Google & friends have horded is a total, useless crap produced and consumed by normies.