Frankfurt school that fled from Weimar that infiltrated US institutions
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Why do you think that we study history like you? In USSR history is just a timelime of events. History teacher do not tell who was bad or good, it is just "in 1415 troops of Henry V land on the beach of Normania and get nearby towm". I don't even remember that word "peaceful" was ever used. History is not about feelings, it is just a number of dates and events.
Does you mainstram historians tell something about exactly same things going in Europe? Or "You don't understand, it's different!!!1111"
Who didn't? You are not aware of GB plans to control the whole Europe? Or plans of USA to control whole world? That's fucking hillarious.
Hitler have a perfect opportunity to make a deal with USSR and attack Britain, effectively exterminating fucking nest of serpents in Europe forever. As soon as this get some real outlines in talks and agreements between Reich and USSR, inbreed GB elites rush to Poland along with Rotshilds, Rockfellers and other bankers began to screw Reich economy.
Hitler had problems with fuel and metal supply for his growing industry. It was fucking obvious where he could get that all. The question was only in method. And Hitler initially inclined to peaceful one. British provocations, backed with Jewish bankers succeded into breaking Molotov-Ribbentrop act.
And exactly same situation repeated just recently. As soon relations between Germany and Russia began to
Who told you that? There was no "massive support from America" at all. First, lend-lease started only when US government realised that USSR will win this war. Second, nothing really useful on the battlefield was sent. Here, in every family was a WWII veteran. So I have first-hand information about "American help". Only thing that was more or less decent was Studebekker trucks. All other, including Sherman tanks and Cobras planes was single-use crap. Not even talking about artillery. Seriously, account late 1943 supply of weak howitzers with non-standard ammunition as "critical help" when USSR from autumn 1941 manufactured MLRS by thousands is kind of idiocy. Why USA didn't supply us with MLRS? Ah, they had none. USA didn't know how to make them... OK...
Not that lend-lease was toatally useless, but it surely was nor critical, nor decisive. It helped to end the war few months earlier, but definitely not to win. Just compare amount of tech (not even talking about usefulness in real conditions) provided by allies and tech built in USSR. It is order of magnitude difference. Few percents are not deceisive, especially when we had our own unlimited manufacturing.
Stalin thanked all countries that provide assistance to USSR, not only USA. This absolutely does not mean that, say, without Iran's help we could not win at all. Either you have some weird understanding of regular gratitude, either there is some weird perversion. Somebody saying "Thank you", absolutely does not prove that he could not survive without your help.
What make you think so? Stalin didn't get rid of all Jews. And never had this goal. He even created Jewish Autonomous Oblast for Jews for settlement. But he get rid of any possibility for Jews to control USSR. There was no Jew controlled Central Bank, there was no Jews controlled education and healthcare, there was no Jews controlled ideology and so on.
That is why they flee USSR en masse into Israel, Europe and USA. That is why there is Brighton beach Jewish ghetto in NY made from USSR Jews. That is why you constantly hear Jewish whinning about evil USSR.
Whatever, really. If you don't even try to question narrative you used to since childhood, don't want to get rid of that stupid feelings shit about history, I don't really want to convince you in anything.
I even can tell you that it is very beneficial for Russia as space-time phenomena when West believe in its own bullshit. That give us a huge advantage in all perspectives.
It is just sad that those few who are trying to resist Western elites and trying to find the truth instead of narratives do not even try to dig into this one. Somehow Western elites are undisputably evil and lying in everything, except all things about Russia.
Also funny that we don't have same bullshit legends about USA. Even in USSR times we didn't have such mythology. I tried to think out example of how stupid propagandistss clishes about USSR looks like, but end with nothing. USA was not presented as some capitalist Mordor to Soviet people. There just no anything close to the clished image of Russian drinking vodka from samovar (?) with tractor made from wood and dream to occupy clean toilet of civilized elves under the control of KGB that lives rent-free in heads of Western public. Average John from US or Hans from Germany was just a regular dude, just with some minor local differences. Even buddist Kalmyk from same USSR had more differences. I really tried to create some clishe about West, similar to that perverted idiocy you tell me about USSR. Started with George Wasinglton being jewmason eating nigger babies for breakfast, while sucking Jewish circumcised dicks in his mason orgies dreaming of killing all Indians in America, but fuck, I just can't hold such insanity level. And it is not even close to the level of Western narratives insanity about USSR/Russia. I failed, I'm obviously nowhere near to the perverted imagination of Western "historians" and "politicians" whose product you chew with pleasure.
You keep making assumptions about me and what you think I believe but you have no fucking idea who I am. I could be a White man in Brazil from all you know. In your long and interesting replies you keep ignoring my specific points. For example:
I provided proof that the USSR was involved in Angola in 1960s to prove that they were trying to control the world.
I said that Stalin put 20,000 tanks on the border with German-occupied territory (which is more than just having a plan) and that to me is proof that he (and not Hitler) started the hostilities.
I said that Stalin himself conceded that without America they would have lost. Even Khrushchev said that.
So why don't you try to tackle these points? FYI lend-lease didn't just include weapons, but a ton of other things including resources to fuel the USSR's industry.
It's also incredible that you keep thinking that the Jews lost control of the USSR, when (((Kaganovich))) was the most powerful man in the USSR for decades. Khrushchev was his pupil. And then we have (((Andropov))).
Oh, they flee... poor Jews, always persecuted and they have to flee all the time! They are always the victims, they have to flee! What you said made me vomit.
I don't care who you are, even if you are a blue insect from nearby star. I don't even care what you believe, really, However it is interesting to get more proofs that Western "history" is founded on the feelings. In your "history" everything labeled with emotional colors, historic events are always good or evil, actors are always good or evil, and it is all depends on current necessary narrative of elite. "Emotional history legends" from perverts. :) Nice.
Logical fallacy. Angola is not world. And it is pure lie. USSR and Cuba was involved purely because MPLA leader officially asked for assistance. Not because they decided to be involved to conquer the world.
Also, don't you find the idea to start conquering the world from Angola extremely weird? Angola? Seriously?
Do you understand a very simple and easily verifiable fact that USSR and Germany didn't have common border? So Germany already occupied a territory toward USSR. So why you so amased that USSR enforced it's border rightfully predicting the possibility that Germany will continue to occupy territories? What's wrong or illogical in that move? Or it is just another "USSR is bad", yes?
Seriously, you show complete lack of basic logic and ability to get rid of that stupid emotional attitude to historic events.
It is a pure lie. No speech or document exist with such sentence.
Fuel? Seriously? Look how insane that sounds. Especially taking in account that USA decision about lend-lease was made only after it become obvious that Germany will lost that war. Fucking cowards from US elite wait to see who will prevail. They didn't even start talks on lend-lease in June 1941. Only after battle for Moscow, when Germans was defeated, USA began to send something.
Why you so obsessed with lend-lease at all? USA eventually got their participation prize in WWII, now all Western Europe pays for that. Be happy or whatever feeling you expect to have.
Two Jews for 60 years of USSR. Now count Jews who are in charge of the West.
Stalin was internationalist, not nationalist. He persecuted Jews not because they are Jews, but because they was absolute majority of desctuctive forces.
Kaganovich was not "most powerful". Don't you get how ridiculous that sounds when you have Stalin at the top? If Kaganovich was "most powerful", then how Stalin is tyrant?
Kaganovich was positioned by Stalin as responsible for industry. In exchange for loyality that expressed by Kaganovich surrending many hidden Jewish cells in different parts of USSR power circles.
Reduction in number of Jews in some country make you vomit? Well...
Doesm't Pale of Settlement for Jews in Russian Empire make you vomit too?
LOL you seem to ignore that the USSR invaded Poland. The "border" I was referring to meant where they met. Amassing tanks on the border is universally recognized as an act of war.
Here's proof for both Stalin and Khrushchev. Stalin said it in 1943 in Tehran, Khrushchev wrote it in his memories.
HAHAHAH, says the guy who thinks the USSR didn't want to conquer the world!
By the way, be careful how you talk about the Great Patriotic War. I've heard it's literally a crime to question the holohoax in Russia. Oh you certainly don't have emotions about history, except if someone has the wrong ideas he goes to jail.
Thanks for the discussion, but we're done here.
Poland, backed by UK was extremely agressive toward both Germany and USSR. Also invaded Chechoslovakia. It was divided between Germany and USSR, and meanwhile USSR didn't even insisted on returning of all parts of Poland that was part of Russian Empire.
So you provide some questionable translation of Khruschev memories about Stalin who Khruschev hated to the point of striking out of USSR history as a proof?
Officially documented 1943 "toast for lend-lease" sounds like "US proved that they could made 8000 planes per month, UK can made only 3000, USA is definitely a country of machinery, Their machines we get with lend-lease helping us to win this war. Let's drink for that". That's it.
This text is confirmed by Berezhkov who was on that dinner in Tegeran, unlike Khruschev.
Yet another source is memories of Elliot Rusevelt, son of USA president. Guess what will write a son of a bastard who not only not tried to stop UK and his Jewish banker bosses from starting that war, but intentionally delayed US support till the time when everything become clear about who will win this war?
Do you understand that USSR turn the tide of WWII before any of that lend-lease? All manufacturing in USSR was already transferred behind Ural mountains and Germany had no any chance to reach it. Endless supply of weaponry to the frontline was established. And it outproduced Germany one without any limits on resources Germany faced heavily.
You yourself mentioned 20 000 tanks on just western USSR border. In addition to that USSR porduced 110 000 tanks during the war. USA together with all allies supplied only 10 000 total. USA sent just 5 000. It is fucking ridiculous to suppose they play any really significant role. If you take into account low reliability, repairability and weird size of armor of that tanks, then you just can't come to that stupid conclusion that "USSR would have lost the war without USA help".
That's your level of knowledge about Russia. "I've heard".
No, questioning holohoax is not a crime, felony, even not misdemeanor or whatever legal term you could find in Russia and never was. Do you know, that one of most famous "holohoax denier" Jurgen Graf got sanctuary in Russia? He lives here free of persecution by Jewish governments of Europe. Who really prosecute people for questioning holohoax.
We also have no any punishment for boycotting Israel in trade, "Holohoax lessons" for children, doctors in Russia do not propose circumscission for our infants, and we have no Jewish ghettos like Brighton in NY and other US cities. Jews do not build their ugly "Holocaust museums" in the historical centers of russian towns like they did in Munich, active politicians can't have dual citizenship even if it is Israel and so on.
Projection of Western own shit to beloved scarecrow is a stupid strategy. Especially it is funny becasue Russia, as any other country have many real shit, that could be used in propaganda. But somehow Western inbred elites prefer to use tales from their ass about Russia, making us laugh.