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Any flat earther here who can show me their calculations to predict an eclipse based on a flat earth model?
posted 1 year ago by vpnsurfer 1 year ago by vpnsurfer +14 / -5

Predictions: at best some incoherent rant that they can but won't do it for some bullshit reason

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– ceva 1 point 1 year ago +1 / -0

Then why can't you or anyone else establish that empirically (i.e. scientifically)?

Copy/pasted from earlier:

If we're going to discuss laws, especially ones that you claim have been agreed upon by others, then we should discuss it as it is written, not using our own summations of what we think it says.

I'm sorry, but I will not entertain otherwise.

I'm not interested in hearing an anonymous individual's claim and spending time looking to prove it wrong.

but you can conceptualize it that way and everything works

But it doesn't. Either the gas is constantly expanding to fill a volume, or it is at rest atop other particles. Both can't be true simultaneously.

t's newtonian relativism. You may soundly conceptualize either, and or both forces as newtons third law requires you to.

But it's not an active force. It's a reactive force.

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– jack445566778899 1 point 1 year ago +1 / -0

I'm sorry, but I will not entertain otherwise.

You have no obligation to learn anything. Not in this conversation, nor any other. But it does make things frightfully dull, both for you and the person attempting to converse with you.

The choice is yours, but the laws of nature won't change or go away because you shut your eyes and ears and scream like a child.

The reason it is a law, is not because of the scores of scientists and laypersons before me who have recorded and measured it (many in published works on hydrostatics, as well as textbooks which you refuse to read yourself). It is not a law because i said it. It is a law only because it is demonstrably (empirically) so and you cannot provide any measurement (nor cite anyone else's) which contradicts it. That is the way it is with ALL laws. This is an important lesson to learn if you want to understand, discuss, or practice science.

Newton's third law doesn't require that the opposite action is a force being exerted (by the glass jar) onto the original object (the particle)

Read it again. It explicitly and unequivocally says that. For every action ... (applied force is an action).

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