One thing i’ve struggled to find is a good reason for support of Israel. From the general public I mean, not from politicians who just keep using the grift but actual American citizens. For the life of me i can’t think of a single reason anyone in north america gives two shits about the middle east at all, much less support and quote the tired “muh greatest ally” crap. Where did the push for this come from? How did it start? Was it newspaper propaganda slowly inserting it to where the normies simply accepted it to be truth? Was it something they drilled into you in grade school and it never got questioned later?
Ignoring the entire jew angle for a moment here, greatest ally for what? What help has ever been given to get this title? FRANCE I can see as America’s best ally after the help in the revolutionary war of independence, the whole gifting of the statue of liberty etc. but what has Israel ever done? We know about the U.S.S. Liberty, we know they did espionage for nuclear weapon tech, they don’t exactly keep the middle east secure and quiet and keep the muslims in check at all. Just WHAT is the deal?
Im early 40’s, and have yet to see anything positive in regards to Israel (or the middle East in general to be honest) to the point where i might not even grunt in affirmation to hear that the whole region is now a glowing ocean crater(fiery but mostly peaceful nuclear protest you see). Those who grew up when support for Israel was being pushed, what did you see to cause this?
So if im reading you right, it was more of a religious push than a government one, and setup around 1900 and not so much 1948? Simply continuing the plan not making a new one? That makes a lot of sense. Very few religious people i know have any ability to critically think, as soon as its argument-from-authority and that authority is the church the brain shuts down. A shepherd leading their non dissenting flock of sheep…
Do you find younger generations tend to lack this inbuilt “muh ally” conditioning? I saw through the lies and walked away from the church decades ago and honestly don’t have many highly religious people in my circle to discuss it with. I know younger gens have been trending less towards organized religion so maybe theres still hope. A fools hope but hope none the less.
One of the most prominent British Christian Zionists of the 19th century was Lord Shaftesbury, who was also a notable social reformer. His advocacy for the restoration of the Jews to Palestine was intertwined with British identity and policy from the 1830s onwards.
It didn't take so much to push the needle back then. It all seems to stem from a single book.
https://fathomjournal.org/british-christian-zionism-and-george-eliots-daniel-deronda/
"...as soon as its argument-from-authority and that authority is the church the brain shuts down."
I was raised a Southern Baptist, and that's how it was. I started really thinking about the Doctrine of Salvation and the Book of Job, and shit started colliding in my mind until that paradigm was shattered – and all for the best, of course.
I don't feel that I'm in-tune enough with what the younger generations are thinking, but I have seen a lot of personal stories on r/conspiracy about teenagers coming to terms with a lot of truth that I didn't even think about until I was 40. That's partly because the whole power structure got in our faces in a new way on 9/11/01, and there's been a cornucopia of new and creative global psy-ops and overt aggressions since. It's much more difficult to ignore than it was in the 80s and 90s.
Edit: That last statement is very American. Those in Central America, Eastern Europe and the Balkans, Middle/Far East, Africa and elsewhere were very aware and victims of the power structure in those decades
Yeah canadian here and 9/11 wasn’t AS affecting on me as it would be an american child going through it but was still fucked with due to proximity. Have had to deal with US policy having impacts on my life without any way to change or shape them, never gets any easier. Part of me wishes there was a way to stop this without bloodshed but the rational part of me knows it wont end til I pull the sword off the wall and start removing heads and only stop when its done. There can be no compromise with these fucks, rip and tear until it is done. They wont stop so we can’t leave any of them.