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posted 2 years ago by BuckeyePatr1ot 2 years ago by BuckeyePatr1ot +23 / -5
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– Modeler42 -1 points 2 years ago +1 / -2

But you should not require any supporting documentation to understand what i am saying to you.

Well, I do require supporting documentation, because what you're saying doesn't make sense in practice.

For example, in the cup example, I can pull a cup towards me without wrapping my hand around the cup (the element of the scenario you described as contributing to "push"). I don't see where the billiard ball view can support how that works.

i don't think it will help with this conversation

It would certainly help your struggle in conveying how this process works!

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– jack445566778899 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

Well, I do require supporting documentation,

To understand what i am saying? It's best to learn about my perspective "from the horses mouth" don't you think?

because what you're saying doesn't make sense in practice.

You are free to ask any questions about my perspective (and that of classical deterministic physics) if you wish! What doesn't make sense? In particle (aka "billiard ball") physics, even forces are particles. Particles cannot pull, for the same reasons that billiard balls cannot pull.

I can pull a cup towards me without wrapping my hand around the cup.

Not without pushing the cup towards you, no! You are, of course, free to call that pushing "pulling" due to frame of reference / colloquial familiarity - but it is still just pushing. Perhaps if we walk through your thought process / example, my perspective may make more sense to you.

I don't see where the billiard ball view can support how that works.

Your moving "billiard balls" (in your hand) collide with the cup (or the behind of its handle), pushing it towards you.

It would certainly help your struggle in conveying how this process works!

Perhaps. I think it would just be more distraction. To learn about my perspective and (hopefully) clear up any of your difficulties with it, the best way would be to ask me about it directly!

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