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posted 2 years ago by BuckeyePatr1ot 2 years ago by BuckeyePatr1ot +23 / -5
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– Modeler42 -2 points 2 years ago +1 / -3

I am of the view that all forces are "pushing" forces

If this is the case, that's a major issue, because there are many forces that are not pushing forces. I'm not sure how we can progress successfully on this topic if you have such a massive misunderstanding of the very concept of force.

Is an object being pulled by another experiencing a pushing force?

If you like, you may go all "zeno's paradox" on it and imagine the matter itself as infinitely divisible - if it helps you to understand/conceptualize.

It doesn't, because again there stands that there is matter at the top of the pile.

It does this at rest, sitting on a scale where we measure that weight.

And we then take the time to understand where that force comes from.

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– jack445566778899 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

If this is the case, that's a major issue, because there are many forces that are not pushing forces.

Not in classical (deterministic, aka "billiard ball") physics, no. How would a billiard ball pull?

As i said, this is all just distraction currently - it has nothing to do with what we are talking about. Let's finish chewing on what's in our mouths before taking another bite!

It doesn't, because again there stands that there is matter at the top of the pile.

Not that can't be divided by 2. This is the core of zeno's paradox. The limit described would approach the actual weight. It's .99 repeating = 1 by different wording. You would always have another piece of matter with weight to do the "pushing from behind" and be consistent with your conception.

As i said, this was only for your benefit to try and understand/rationalize in a consistent way with your arbitrary convention. We see now that it didn't help. Best let it alone and try another approach if you are earnestly still interested in understanding.

And we then take the time to understand where that force comes from.

I've already done that (in much the same way archimedes undoubtedly did 2+ millennia ago). What we're doing now is trying to help you understand my conclusion that the force of weight is intrinsic and inexorable to all matter. Of course, you are free to disagree - but i think you are beyond the point of earnestly not understanding what i am saying.

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