Look as politely as i can say this... You don't understand physics
Believe me, the feeling is mutual. But it is not just knowledge of physics that you lack, but knowledge of its history. You can't hope to really understand the teachings now unless you have knowledge of where they came from, and how they were derived.
and your entire argument is built on sophistry.
No. It's built on physics, and it isn't an argument - just my perspective.
I dont plan on ever convincing you.
Good! We should never seek to convince [aka manipulate], we should seek to learn and share what we learn.
So can i just change the subject for a sec to WHY...
Sure, if you wish.
WHY is the earth flat?
Who said the earth was flat?
Why is it being covered up? Who stands to gain? And what fo they stand to gain?
What are you talking about? Who in the world are you talking to? As i said before, while discussing with me - try to ignore the other voices and focus on mine instead ;)
If you want to know/understand my perspective, simply ask - but don't foolishly assume you already know because you spoke to someone else!
In general, if the world is flat then nothing is being covered up. Humanity requires no help in order to be consistently stupid and wrong as it historically always is.
However, if there were some sort of "conspiracy" to hide the true shape of the world i'm sure you could imagine plenty of reasons (things to gain) to do so if you set your mind to it.
How was the planet created if not from gravity?
Gravitation, not gravity. Gravity doesn't create; it is just the phenomenon of falling.
Gravitation cannot explain the creation of the planets or stars, it is a major problem for the standard cosmological model.
In general, recognizing your views (that we were conditioned to believe through rote under the guise of education from childhood) are merely mythology/religion misrepresented as science doesn't automatically replace them with the correct answers (although that would be nice!). The planet was created, of that we can be assured. Did it, or life, create itself spontaneously the way our foolish ancestors believed and taught in a world demonstrably tending towards entropy? No, of course not.
And are all celestial bodies flat?
They certainly appear that way from out vantage (as discs), but they are too far away to determine that scientifically. They are almost certainly not bodies, however - they are luminaries. What shape is a light (not the lightbulb)?
Bad faith? Are you having trouble answering the question?
Who claimed the earth was flat, and when? Please provide quotes / links to my statements so that i can better address your misunderstanding.
Several times in this conversation you have asked silly questions like you are having an entirely unrelated conversation with someone who isn't me :(
Instead of stupidly assuming you know what i think (based on conversations you have had with other people) and being consistently wrong - why not try to have a discussion with me instead?
I have not only answered all your questions in good faith (and always do), i've answered them pretty thoroughly. If you want to know what shape i think the world is, just ask! It's the foolish assumption that is causing you problems :(
I'm completely done with your novels
If you can't handle a few sentences, then you can't handle conversation or learning :( I do try to be succinct, but i also want to answer your questions thoroughly enough so you understand my perspective.
That said, i know this is a difficult conversation for you and you were never obligated to continue. I assure you it has all been in good faith, however.
Believe me, the feeling is mutual. But it is not just knowledge of physics that you lack, but knowledge of its history. You can't hope to really understand the teachings now unless you have knowledge of where they came from, and how they were derived.
No. It's built on physics, and it isn't an argument - just my perspective.
Good! We should never seek to convince [aka manipulate], we should seek to learn and share what we learn.
Sure, if you wish.
Who said the earth was flat?
What are you talking about? Who in the world are you talking to? As i said before, while discussing with me - try to ignore the other voices and focus on mine instead ;)
If you want to know/understand my perspective, simply ask - but don't foolishly assume you already know because you spoke to someone else!
In general, if the world is flat then nothing is being covered up. Humanity requires no help in order to be consistently stupid and wrong as it historically always is.
However, if there were some sort of "conspiracy" to hide the true shape of the world i'm sure you could imagine plenty of reasons (things to gain) to do so if you set your mind to it.
Gravitation, not gravity. Gravity doesn't create; it is just the phenomenon of falling.
Gravitation cannot explain the creation of the planets or stars, it is a major problem for the standard cosmological model.
In general, recognizing your views (that we were conditioned to believe through rote under the guise of education from childhood) are merely mythology/religion misrepresented as science doesn't automatically replace them with the correct answers (although that would be nice!). The planet was created, of that we can be assured. Did it, or life, create itself spontaneously the way our foolish ancestors believed and taught in a world demonstrably tending towards entropy? No, of course not.
They certainly appear that way from out vantage (as discs), but they are too far away to determine that scientifically. They are almost certainly not bodies, however - they are luminaries. What shape is a light (not the lightbulb)?
Bad faith? Are you having trouble answering the question?
Who claimed the earth was flat, and when? Please provide quotes / links to my statements so that i can better address your misunderstanding.
Several times in this conversation you have asked silly questions like you are having an entirely unrelated conversation with someone who isn't me :(
Instead of stupidly assuming you know what i think (based on conversations you have had with other people) and being consistently wrong - why not try to have a discussion with me instead?
I have not only answered all your questions in good faith (and always do), i've answered them pretty thoroughly. If you want to know what shape i think the world is, just ask! It's the foolish assumption that is causing you problems :(
If you can't handle a few sentences, then you can't handle conversation or learning :( I do try to be succinct, but i also want to answer your questions thoroughly enough so you understand my perspective.
That said, i know this is a difficult conversation for you and you were never obligated to continue. I assure you it has all been in good faith, however.