Did Catholicism Create Islam?
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You are incorrectly comparing Roman Catholicism to Christianity. The Roman Catholic Papacy is the little horn power. It is the first beast that comes from the sea in Revelation. It is the mother of harlots. It has been successfully identified as what most people would understand as the antichrist. Rome does in fact worship death, you can’t have mass unless you are conducting it over a crypt. It inherits its ideologies from Rome, who got it from Greece, who got it from the Medo-Persians, who got it from Babylon. The Bible warns you of Rome if you let it define its own symbols. Saying the Roman Catholics persecuted the Gnostics is like saying heretics were persecuting heretics. If you actually learn what the Papacy believes, you realize they worship the same thing as the gnostics. Lucifer always gives the same basic points and then embellishes them in a million different ways to let people pick and choose which flavor of the teachings they prefer.
You are extremely confused when you mix Catholicism with Christianity and then look to Gnosticism as the key to unlock it all. The reason why you walked into this confusion is precisely because you “do both”. Again, you can’t. The Bible is the foundation of all truth and you have to work outward. If you don’t approach it from that stance, the Bible becomes just another book and you are walking around blindly with no foundation and no way other than your feelings to discern what is true. The Bible warns against this saying to not trust your own feelings because they can be manipulated. When you learn how to spot fake money, do you study the known forgeries? No, you study the genuine article. Real Christianity is a very different religion from what you appear to believe it is.
Btw, I came to Christianity after many years of studying Gnosticism and the occult believing it to be correct. I’ve read Crowley, Blavatsky, Bailey, Pike, Hall, The Emerald Tablets, Kabbalah: I could go on and on. It leads nowhere and it all boils down to Lucifer worship in one way or another at the top. I was very reluctant to come to Christianity at first. The teachings of God go against what we find appealing as fallen man and require a lot of change and sacrifice but if you are genuinely honest and approach things logically, you will eventually arrive at the truth of Jesus Christ.
Lastly, anything that takes a higher priority in your life than God is an idol. It can be a literal statue, it can be an activity like alcoholism or gambling, or it can be a mindset like atheism in which you functionally declare yourself to be a little mini-god.
I did the same from an early age. I won't give you a list of books, I spent my whole long life doing it. How are you on comparative religions east and west?
I'm not extremely confused about how extremely confused people are about the history of Christianity. I'm extremely aware of it and how much a person can confess to know and not show it by act or word.
The Catholic Flavian Christianity defines modern Christianity. It's YOU who mixes the wines together not I. You're simply evangelizing and attempt to degrade with false characterization of my understanding to make it easier. it won't work and is an ugly way to converse. So....
I don't let Rome define shit. I just told you that Rome defined modern Christianity.
Funny, you told me that you were reluctant to come to the teachings, yet I was supposed to start with the bible. Actually i did. I was reluctant to come to false teachings, still am, and always will be.
Here's more fun; There was a REASON that anons were put onto Reddit, then 8 chan/4chan and then over to the goats at VOAT.
It was for the two thieves to 'butt heads' and let Divine Inspiration reign in the end.
Orthodox literalist beliefs masquerading as deep truths are the next thing to be exposed and the final piece to recovery. Saving Israel for last.
Rome does not define Christianity. The Bible defines what Christianity is. The Bible also clearly identifies and calls out what Rome is. It gives a specific timeline in its prophecies that perfectly predict the ministry of Christ, the various kingdoms that rule earth through history, and even the reign of the Catholic Church in the dark ages. It even identifies America. If you really know what the Bible actually says, you could tell me what time period we are in according to scripture and where it is paralleled in scripture. Who is America in the Bible? What role will it play? If you’ve been studying scripture your whole life and know the symbolism so well, you should be able to answer these critical questions.
Again, you are letting manmade symbolism direct your thought and not the Bible. You aren’t even referencing the symbolism of the mixed and unmixed wine correctly.
For someone who is reluctant to embrace false teachings, you certainly seem to enjoy believing in gnostic fanfiction. I reluctantly came to Christianity because I approached the subject with a completely open mind and gave each version of the story it’s own careful consideration. Coming to God essentially meant that I had to acknowledge that I had been studying lies for years.
You might want to tell the martyrs that Rome didn't attempt to define Christianity. It would be news to them.
I made a mixing of wine analogy. I didn't refer to the biblical example. But this is exactly what accepting literalist teachings as 'scripture' and therefore infallible is doing. (mixing in poor wine).
Saving Israel for last means pulling the literalist (satanic) snake from the tree yet agian. From belief in false teachings to knowledge of deep truths.
No the bible doesn't identify America.
You can't prove a thing by itself. You can't prove or disprove by 'belief' in something. I'm not attempting to do either. You are.
Go ahead and show me some example of my 'believing in gnostic fanfiction'.
I'll wait.
If you mean belief in the existence in a historic 'Judaic' gnostic movement, I'd be a fool not to. I'd be a fool, after studying it, not to see that it was that movement that brought the messianic message, and that it was their so-called messiah that was co-opted by Flavian Rome and perpetrated by the later so-called church it created through misrepresentation of dogmatic principles.
I didn't reluctantly come to the truth as i understand it. I sought it with every fiber of my being.
I don't 'identify' as gnostic, agnostic or a 'believer'. I seek truth and leave name calling to lesser individuals.
This isn't about me in any case, and it isn't about preaching dogma. You hoist theosophists up as proof of your search and then cast it aside, saying there was nothing there.
I found something there. The things that attract them and fool them in it. I see the half that is correct and the parts that their methods won't allow to be seen. Because two are taken up on a high place, but only one looks at the source.
You show your position whether you know it or not. And your style is as offensive as it is sophomoric.
If you’re going to use a biblical analogy, it needs to parallel the biblical example. Making an analogy that doesn’t harken to the source material isn’t a valid analogy. If it was, you could just make symbols mean whatever you want with no basis and then you have no foundation to base your beliefs on. You become a victim to whomever can make the most correct sounding argument instead of being able to verify their positions with discernment.
The fact that you are trying to prophecy using non-biblical symbols and believe in the demiurge narrative is proof in itself that you believe in gnostic fanfiction. You tell me that you’ve found truth in lies. Truth mixed with lies is still a lie and it has nothing to do with the way God gives information. God doesn’t occult the truth. The Bible is a complete work and you are able to understand the story and it’s symbols using just its texts. There are no deep, hidden truths in Christianity because God does nothing in secret. If you think I’m an orthodox Christian, I’m not.
And again, Catholicism doesn’t define Christianity in the same way the Pharisees didn’t define it. God defines His faith and the truth therein, not man or the actions of man. You are pointing to religions practiced by deceived men and are trying to say that it’s Christianity.
It doesn’t matter what you “identify” as. If you obey the teachings and edicts of someone, you belong to them. At the end, there is no middle ground, only the two sides. Satan has created what will be a confederacy of belief systems that all supposedly point to the direction of truth when it’s all a lie. There is only one path you can walk and it’s a very narrow one. It shares nothing with the other things you are studying. The Bible goes out of its way, many times, to warn that the whole world gets deceived with the exception of a small remnant that keep the faith against tremendous persecution in the end. You probably wouldn’t even believe me if I told you what the mark of the beast will end up being.
The Bible absolutely identifies America if you understand biblical symbolism and the timeline given. America is the second beast of revelation (the beast that comes out of the earth) that will eventually give power back to the first beast which is the Papacy (the beast that comes out of the sea). The final apostasy that takes over the planet, and eventually rolls out the mark of the beast, is going to start in America before spreading out over the world. My suspicion is that it will be within the decade at the rate things are going. We are currently in a period of time referred to as the hour of judgement. This is a probationary period that finds its parallel in genesis, in which 120 years passed after God declared He would destroy the earth and the flood actually came. This probationary period will continue until just after the mark gets rolled out and enforced, then the plagues will come. During this period, the final call to God’s people to come out of Babylon must spread over the world so that everyone can make their decision as to whom they will serve.
As for proof, biblical prophecy absolutely can be proven. The prophecies in Daniel give the starting date and they perfectly predict the ministry of Christ and the rule of the papacy if you just work it out.
Divine inspiration doesn’t reign in the end, Christ does. He comes back and pretty much destroys the planet. Modern Israel and the biblical Israel have nothing to do with each other. The country of Israel could be destroyed tomorrow and it wouldn’t affect biblical prophecy at all. They aren’t the Jews Jesus is talking about in Revelation. The fact that so many people of these sites rant and rave about the modern Jews like they’re the “big bad” goes to show their shallow roots in scripture.
Where the heck did you get this nonsense that the chans and voat had some pivotal role in prophetic events? The Bible or some post on the internet? What spiritual fruits does 4chan yield?