evidence is on the internet

Cool, so where is it.

also, you have to not live under a rock

Cool, so no evidence, just a single personal anecdote which isn’t representative of anything.

go watch some NWO/plandemic/Covid documentaries and you'll see lots of motives and foul play.

That’s not what is in question.

its not as definitive as a world death rate increase

So… it isn’t happening, then?

but that also may be in the future

So there’s no evidence yet. None, then. Because it’s in the future.

here is evidence hat show excess mortality by looking at actuaries of Life Insurance claims:

Okay, but how can you trust these statistics when we know beyond a shadow of a doubt that they lie about everything, whether themselves or because they’re ordered to by the government. Nothing the government announces is legitimate. Nothing on Wall Street is legitimate. Nothing reported for the sale of representing oneself on Wall Street is legitimate.

Proof of an uptick in deaths would be found everywhere. Traffic would be lower. Neighborhoods would be emptying. The housing market would crash because no one would be around to be buying homes. Consumer goods would have massive inventory overstocks.

We see none of this.

but my entire point was that we cant know

So why say that we do?

Also, i said spanish flu deaths were actually caused by vaccine

I sort of buy that. I definitely know that people died from the “care” they received rather than the illness itself. And not even the active care, but the passive care from people not knowing better—like how patients trapped inside died while those who couldn’t fit into the hospitals (and who had to be put outside in fresh air and sunshine) did great.