I wonder how many more die first?
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Look it up. People were shot in the coup. People in positions of power were arrested. Odesa didn't back the coup and a host of other places originally, it sent the army in. Then it installed a secret police. Who are fully operating now. Accusations are enough to cause imprisonment, and death. They use meat wagons frequently and forcibly draft people. People as young as 15 and as old as 60, and girls. They have different bands on status. They amount to training. I don't know those colors, but yeah one is fodder, the others are veterans.
These stories are in Western media. Of ordinary people sent to die in ditches. Sent to a front line that throws them away. They're simply given a gun. After all of two days off to a ditch.
As far as that draft goes I can provide the exact quote Zelenskyy used or you can look it up. It amounts to capital punishment. Meanwhile he halted girl refugees, because they're being given conscription. Not all are on the front no. I heard they started a rape night and state brothels. It keeps morale high.
I haven't proved anything, I am not Russian. What propaganda? Facts.
Instead read it. The topic. Look. Blind. It isn't idealism either it's corruption.
You simply cannot get yourself to admit that Russia is the one invading and that they can stop the war any time, can you?
That doesn't make any sense.
If your citizens are being killed. How is it an invasion? It's called a rescue.
If your military base is threatened, and under attack, don't you defend it?
What invasion? A legitimate conflict fought everywhere else on this planet this World over.
The problem you've assumed is that is the Ukraine. When it isn't and wasn't. An imaginary border has not understood the history, geography, or the anthropology. It has simply assumed an imaginary border.
Russia cannot stop at anytime it wants. No. Not until Ukraine stops attacking it. You do realise, all that territory is now Russian, by Russian law, as it was historically. Ukraine can make peace at any time. But it's gonna take a few more limbs it seems, that video formerly linked of the Black Knight.
Or do tell me how it resolves. Read it. That's Zelenskyy's doppelganger stating? Tell me what he has said? Defeat Russia, right? Rejecting peace? At what point was peace a solution.
Lastly I don't care how it resolves. But for the sake of it, your perception is mired. I know of my own nation and its civil wars and border wars. They are no different in the reasons for them. They are the same. It would be no different. Hasn't been any different. The idealism you're assuming is the stuff of propaganda and fairytales. For any peace, the only rule is conceding. Otherwise at what point does the losses justify humanity?
Freedom you've assumed is war. They were free, had peace, until ironically? Tell me this. Read it. Perhaps it could've been better. It always can be better. At what price? What price to humanity.
It's the little tranny down voter. Quick charge. You're free.
There you go. Thanks for confirming that you are a Russian shill.
So how's the war going for those poor, downtrodden Russians? Has it been worth it so far?
No, I am not Russian. Nothing to do with Russia. Unlike yourself. You're a Russian agitator. You see Russians under your bed, in your closet, and everywhere else.
I care about if you read, was peace. I am under no other pretense. Hence the link. What did I call it. Further what was the comparison linked?
It seems it was never about peace. It isn't about freedom either. Look, it was even offered. Under that pretense of it. They were free, had peace. Until they claimed otherwise. Now it's a conflict. How does it resolve. I am entertaining that link I sent of the Black Knight. It can still get worse. Much worse