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Porkkala was returned to Finland in 1956. Meh.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karelia
https://www.rferl.org/a/1103688.html
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genocide_of_the_Ingrian_Finns
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evacuation_of_Finnish_Karelia
The question is always the why, why the conflict. The why they sided with Germany. Why Nato. The propaganda has a basis.
I am sure more can be confirmed with census records. But there were purges and communism. In fact the region changed flags repeatedly under communism. It is still a hot topic, obviously. Many Russians settled into Finland, prior to communism, and many Fins were annexed by the Soviets. It is what it is. Exploited perhaps in conflict.
That was that rented naval base far from any USSR borders. It was rented in 1944, when Finland turn his back on Germany in WWII. It was never seized by USSR in the first place, and obviously it is absolutely impossible to return what was never taken. It was rented, then, when there was no need for naval base, rent deal was discontinued. Do you return rented apartment to the owner on the rent term end?
Hillarious. Rented land was "returned" and that is somehow USSR land loss toward Finland.
And this rented naval base was not in Karelia. It was in the Baltic Sea, deep in the territory of Finland. For the God sake, take a map and look, it's not that hard if you know exact name.
No. Karelia region was lost shortly after Bolshevik Revolution and was taken back in 1940. After WWII rest of Karelia lands was returned. So, no, Karelia changed hands once, by Jewish Bolshevik fault, for a ~20 years period is not "repeatedly".
Why return area. Area. War kinda breaks rent, yes, army fighting army. It's because of a truce. Also because they stopped sending the Fins to the gulag. They made border agreements etc.
No, Finland has joined Nato is the point. Not speculation.
Karelia hasn't been returned. It's a bigger area going down to the baltics.
Svestapol isn't rented somebody else said the Crimea was?
We're done joking. There are different perspectives and propaganda.
That naval base was rented after Finland exit WWII and made a peace deal with USSR in 1944. This base was necessary at the time, because WWII was going. It was not necessary when war ended, so the base was removed, so there was no any sense in rent deal, so it was discontinued. What is so hard to understand here? Why you need to believe in fucking gulags bullshit and in some non-existent border tensions?
That's good. Sweden have to join too as soon as possible. You might be aware that on most decisions NATO need unanimous vote. So more members with tensions, higher probability of stalling NATO. Sweden and Finland are old enemies, Swedes opressed Finns for millenia. They hate each other and more than suspicious to each other. It will be fun. Like Turkey-Greece discord in NATO was not enough. :)
Crimea is Russia. Sevastopol is a town in Crimea. Why would Russia rent anything on Russian territory from Russia?
Crimea was never rented to anybody.
On the USSR fall, Crimea declared independence before Ukraine. At the time Ukraine declared exit from USSR Crimea already was an independent state with own authorities, president and so on. Being water/energy/transport/everything tied to ex-Ukrainian SSR, Crimea agreed to federate with Ukraine in exchange to full autonomy and independence from Ukrainian authorities. But very soon, Ukrainian authorities overthrow Crimea government and install occupation administration. Sevastopol, being an important naval base had a special status in USSR and Crimea, and was part of Russian Federative Republic in USSR and so left part of Russian Federation after USSR fall. Something like Kaliningrad/Koenigsberg region in the Baltic. Ukrainian authorities who seized Crimea, with push from Britain (who have absolutely no any fucking business in that region at all, but for whatever reason still trying to squeeze here getting its ass kicked again and again since Crimean war in 1850s) right after the 2014 coup began to plan to seize Sevastopol from Russian Federation. However, on the top of protests against 2014 coup, Crimeans fuck new Ukrainian authorities out, declared independence, as independent state called for help to Russia and voted to join Russia back. The question of Sevastopol was completely resolved along with question of Crimea. With full support of Crimea population and without a single shot.
No Sweden wasn't part of a hard nato border. Norway, Finland make. Sweden doesn't even need to be in Nato to be in Nato. It effectively is. Scandinavian treaty.
Why are you such a dumbass.
Base seized in WW2, cites assumed rent. Kept incase of conflict.
Sent tens of thousands of Fins to gulag, genocided others, displaced so many more, annexed others.
Every post is being down voted by niggers. Nigger tier apes, literal apes, hostile and stupid, make up this forum, but they simply want it to echo. It's full of a very dumb World view thinking votes mean shit, in a forum of a closed echo chamber. It throws shit at a wall. It amounts to a bunch of flat earther, no nukes bullshit, while spamming praise Jesus nonsense. When it isn't that it's wahaaa Covid.
I am not out to change your opinion. I don't care.
But the fact is there is far more to the subject. Those wars were a result of figure it out. You've said it already. Suddenly you've assumed it's back to before communism? No. Despite many Russian integrating since. Those agreements with Nato and Europe had been there longer than the present Ukraine conflict. Nato simply made a hard border.
Why would it make a hard border there? Murmansk. The baltics. Etc