Rational is now a defense of beliefs, not a statement of facts.

Asking the mentally ill to defend/define their self. What could go wrong?

In this video, pedos defend first by stating it was an equal relationship. Then, when logic showed that false, the rational shifted to agree, but in a conditional way, akin to teacher-student, or parent-child, that still allowed the practice to be seen as 'normal'.

Every 'point against' is co-opted, and used to propagate.

It wasn't reasoned in, and yes, these people are sick, you can't talk them down.