This was a predicted response because this happens every time malpractice insurance for certain specialties go up in specific areas. Now, both mother AND baby can die. Before you get all baby killer this quote is the most important
At the same time, several hidden impacts of extreme anti-abortion laws are bubbling to the surface. At a recent Ideas Summit held by NewDEAL Leaders, where I am CEO, a representative from a large Midwestern company spoke about difficulties attracting talented women to work in anti-abortion states. A NewDEAL Leader from a different anti-abortion state spoke about how hard it is to attract nurses and medical professionals to a clinic that works with high-risk pregnancies.
If there aren't enough medical professionals for the high risk pregnancies both mother, and child can die. There are travel advisories for pregnant women to stay away from, because it's not safe to have an emergency in those states. The question is, why was this done when this result was completely predictable?
It's because the people that wrote the anti-abortion laws never thought to run them by a medical professional. The laws aren't medically sound. The legal definitions are not the medical definitions.
That's why medical professionals are both leaving, and staying away. They can't legally do their job.
A pregnancy is counted from the first day of the women's last period. (This is why due dates are corrected later in pregnancy after sonograms) That means even if the woman only had sex on day 28 of her cycle, she's automatically 4 weeks pregnant. Now apply 6 week abortion bans to the human biology that the laws ignored. The later corrections are too late for choices to be made.
Next is the, " heartbeat laws" the mothers blood runs through from beginning to end. This leads to situations where there is no heart, but a, " heartbeat" echo is detected in equipment from the mothers heart doing its job. I have also posted a thread where a woman was forced to give birth to cancer. Not even a human being. A clump of cancer cells.
Tbh, this is whole thing a very typical patriarchal American Puritan/Evangelical protestant cultural issue.
Look at Europa, where we come from. They are much more supportive of the equal value of women, pro-feminine power. There have been many warrior Queen's and leaders, such as Joan of Arc and Queen Isabel. Euros are pragmatic in a different way from Americans.
They went through the horrors for thousands of years of losing so many women (mothers, wives, daughters, sisters) to pregnancy and childbirth.
Look at the TV series House of Dragon (based on GRR Martin's books). One of the underlying themes is how childbirth is like a woman's war and they will often die or be damaged from it. A bunch of the women die in labor or lose their babies. And the main 'good guy king' tells his doctors just to cut his wife open ans take the baby out, she is treated like a piece of meat, no idea what is going on, no choice, and no respect for her as a person. The baby still died as they usually did.
(And why did it become standard for women to give birth on their backs? Because a man had a fetish and wanted to watch. So much more dangerous and difficult than working with biology and gravity.)
I think overall, this history caused Europeans to value women more. Also, men would be gone a lot of the time and it was up to the women to keep society, families, food, survival going. They were given the key and the money as they were in charge of the household. I'm sure some did terrible and others did amazing, creating lasting wealth. Even in my Euro family, the women were given the men's paycheck and she would make sure they has all the essentials for the house and kids. And she would make the men food to take to work and give him some spending money / allowance if they could afford it after essentials. And no, these women were not going out buying lots of dresses and partying. They were devoted to the home and didn't even really have their own friends that weren't the wives of the husbands friends. And yes, all they retired wealthy.
OK, this is probably the wrong audience for this but I will speak truth to power, and be hated for it, like usual. Christianity came from/ was based on Hebrew culture and teachings. Jesus was a Rabbi who taught the Torah etc.
The Hebrew /Jewish belief is that abortions are allowed. In fact, they are required by law if the mom's life is in danger. I don't know the specifics, but there is still the majority of the world where women's lives are ruined by having a kid, especially our of wedlock, including by rape. In this case, if their culture and the males around them will kill the mom for getting pregnant, safe abortion should occur.
It was modern Christianity that went awry, first after Jesus's death when Paul and some others fought Mary Magdalene, disregarding Jesus's wishes, then after the Catholic /Orthodox and then especially after the Protestant split. Brothers wars. Witch hunts. Suppression of the feminine value.
Historically, even in Christianity, women could use herbs to abort prior to about 3 months. Abortion has always been part of European culture, so much so that abortion herbs went extinct from over cultivation.
Don't get me wrong, all humans, female and males can be shit. I respect the worthy men around me and in history. But I have complete contempt for arrogant ignorant males who interfere with things that don't concern them, the weak males and those that interfere in women's circles. Women deal with life and death of the bloodline and species while men play war and play hobbies.
The laws were technically incorrect in the case of Roe v Wade, but how many other laws are unjust and technically illegal? Many. Especially recently.
There were probably 4 main reasons this anti-liberty event occured:
-To cover up low birth rate after vax
-To have more vulnerable unwanted kids around / more kids in the foster system
-To give the 'conservatives' a 'win' in this right versus left box, to distract from other issues and create emotions and division on both sides.
-To create the implicit understanding in conservatives that it is not your body, your choice. You body and choices belong to the gov't, including vaccinations.
And of course males are telling women what to do in the trans thing, as well. No choice, no safe spaces, no women's leagues which were created by women for women.
And I can't believe that we live in a country where our lives are dictated to by the mis-beliefs of one religion, when American is supposed to be one of the most secular countries in the world with the division of church and state.
That's like a law being passed that we can eat beef because Hindus say it is immoral.
We shouldn't have to live under the rules of other people's religions. Let them do what they want and leave us free.
Many of us feel the same way these days.
This was a predicted response because this happens every time malpractice insurance for certain specialties go up in specific areas. Now, both mother AND baby can die. Before you get all baby killer this quote is the most important
If there aren't enough medical professionals for the high risk pregnancies both mother, and child can die. There are travel advisories for pregnant women to stay away from, because it's not safe to have an emergency in those states. The question is, why was this done when this result was completely predictable?
https://thehill.com/opinion/judiciary/4065255-the-hidden-harms-of-dobbs-are-coming-to-light/amp/
Wow, this is really important information. It makes sense.
It's because the people that wrote the anti-abortion laws never thought to run them by a medical professional. The laws aren't medically sound. The legal definitions are not the medical definitions.
That's why medical professionals are both leaving, and staying away. They can't legally do their job.
You have no idea what you're talking about.
Biology 101
A pregnancy is counted from the first day of the women's last period. (This is why due dates are corrected later in pregnancy after sonograms) That means even if the woman only had sex on day 28 of her cycle, she's automatically 4 weeks pregnant. Now apply 6 week abortion bans to the human biology that the laws ignored. The later corrections are too late for choices to be made.
Next is the, " heartbeat laws" the mothers blood runs through from beginning to end. This leads to situations where there is no heart, but a, " heartbeat" echo is detected in equipment from the mothers heart doing its job. I have also posted a thread where a woman was forced to give birth to cancer. Not even a human being. A clump of cancer cells.
Tbh, this is whole thing a very typical patriarchal American Puritan/Evangelical protestant cultural issue.
Look at Europa, where we come from. They are much more supportive of the equal value of women, pro-feminine power. There have been many warrior Queen's and leaders, such as Joan of Arc and Queen Isabel. Euros are pragmatic in a different way from Americans.
They went through the horrors for thousands of years of losing so many women (mothers, wives, daughters, sisters) to pregnancy and childbirth.
Look at the TV series House of Dragon (based on GRR Martin's books). One of the underlying themes is how childbirth is like a woman's war and they will often die or be damaged from it. A bunch of the women die in labor or lose their babies. And the main 'good guy king' tells his doctors just to cut his wife open ans take the baby out, she is treated like a piece of meat, no idea what is going on, no choice, and no respect for her as a person. The baby still died as they usually did.
(And why did it become standard for women to give birth on their backs? Because a man had a fetish and wanted to watch. So much more dangerous and difficult than working with biology and gravity.)
I think overall, this history caused Europeans to value women more. Also, men would be gone a lot of the time and it was up to the women to keep society, families, food, survival going. They were given the key and the money as they were in charge of the household. I'm sure some did terrible and others did amazing, creating lasting wealth. Even in my Euro family, the women were given the men's paycheck and she would make sure they has all the essentials for the house and kids. And she would make the men food to take to work and give him some spending money / allowance if they could afford it after essentials. And no, these women were not going out buying lots of dresses and partying. They were devoted to the home and didn't even really have their own friends that weren't the wives of the husbands friends. And yes, all they retired wealthy.
OK, this is probably the wrong audience for this but I will speak truth to power, and be hated for it, like usual. Christianity came from/ was based on Hebrew culture and teachings. Jesus was a Rabbi who taught the Torah etc.
The Hebrew /Jewish belief is that abortions are allowed. In fact, they are required by law if the mom's life is in danger. I don't know the specifics, but there is still the majority of the world where women's lives are ruined by having a kid, especially our of wedlock, including by rape. In this case, if their culture and the males around them will kill the mom for getting pregnant, safe abortion should occur.
It was modern Christianity that went awry, first after Jesus's death when Paul and some others fought Mary Magdalene, disregarding Jesus's wishes, then after the Catholic /Orthodox and then especially after the Protestant split. Brothers wars. Witch hunts. Suppression of the feminine value.
Historically, even in Christianity, women could use herbs to abort prior to about 3 months. Abortion has always been part of European culture, so much so that abortion herbs went extinct from over cultivation.
Don't get me wrong, all humans, female and males can be shit. I respect the worthy men around me and in history. But I have complete contempt for arrogant ignorant males who interfere with things that don't concern them, the weak males and those that interfere in women's circles. Women deal with life and death of the bloodline and species while men play war and play hobbies.
The laws were technically incorrect in the case of Roe v Wade, but how many other laws are unjust and technically illegal? Many. Especially recently.
There were probably 4 main reasons this anti-liberty event occured:
-To cover up low birth rate after vax -To have more vulnerable unwanted kids around / more kids in the foster system -To give the 'conservatives' a 'win' in this right versus left box, to distract from other issues and create emotions and division on both sides. -To create the implicit understanding in conservatives that it is not your body, your choice. You body and choices belong to the gov't, including vaccinations.
And of course males are telling women what to do in the trans thing, as well. No choice, no safe spaces, no women's leagues which were created by women for women.
And I can't believe that we live in a country where our lives are dictated to by the mis-beliefs of one religion, when American is supposed to be one of the most secular countries in the world with the division of church and state.
That's like a law being passed that we can eat beef because Hindus say it is immoral. We shouldn't have to live under the rules of other people's religions. Let them do what they want and leave us free.
Everything went underground, and covid taught us that no one can be trusted.
the hill? really?
at least archive link: https://archive.is/wip/ctFMg
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