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Factors provide numbers based on probability, odds. Not dumb luck. It was no accident if it was expected. It was expected because it had been attacked, and suggested. It was an occurrence that was no surprise. Who gains and why?
No, the Holy Roman Empire moved capital where, tell me about this Russian? Dumbass.
You can't even provide plain data that could be used to calculate probability of non-existing Dnepropetrovsk reservoir excess level.
You could put your "factors" (really random and mostly wrong assumptions without any quantitative or qualitative values) into the trash.
unHoly Roman Empire fall to pieces leaving a piece of shit named Vatican. It does not move its capital anywhere. It just cease to exist, and Romans turn to Italians. Place of Roman Empire was taken by Byzantia with capital in Constantinopol. It become "Second Rome" that have nothing to do with Roman Empire at all. Different etnicity, different country, different religion and so on. Everything different. Russian capital Moscow become "Third Rome" after Byzantia fall, and as prophecy tell, there will be no "Forth Rome" at all.
That "Second Rome", "Third Rome" and impossible "Fourth Rome" is just a labels from prophecy with meaning "Empire capital", and not a sign that Romans have anything to do with them.
Jesus, what literature you read, if you read any? I want to know ISBN to order that crap for lulz. I already have official Ukrainian history schoolbook where Ukrainians declared being predecessors of Galls and builders of Egyptian pyramids. I think I need to enhance my collection of clown world nonsence literature.
You're like a retard child arguing crap.
Factors.
Russian controlled it. Had full access to it.
Russia built it. Knew it needed maintenance. Maintained it.
Russia attacked it. Destroying the road and railroad running over it.
Russia defensively has a better position by the immediate bridge and approach being inaccessible
Russia controlled the first settlements flooded
Ukraine attacked it
Ukraine controls the upper dam
There are probably more. I am doing this quickly
Who gains and why?
What are you spewing. It's inundated drivel. Complete baloney. Nonsense and ignorance. Rome was attacked by Islam, and it moved capital East. This isn't Constantinople. Much of Russia shaped when this occurred. Pushing back the Mongols. Although prior to it, Ukraine and all around the Black Sea was Roman. The Black Sea settlements are far far far older, Bulgaria etc. We are talking conspiracies here, not the concentric paradigm. So is Russia. Georgian wine making dates back 10,000 years. Seashells found in Siberia from Southern India date back almost as old.
As far as your bullshit is concerned stop it. Look up places in Western Russia from Moscow to St.Petersburg. Saint. You fucking melon.
So Ukrainians had access to their Patriots so they blow them, not Russians.
Also it is Ukrainians blow their own tanks, IFV and all that stuff. They have full access to them.
Factor!
You somehow assume that at the time there was some separate Ukriane. It wasn't. It was USSR, nobody give any fuck about that purely administrative division. Most builders and staff lived in Novaya Kakhovka - town around the dam.
Russia never attacked it. It was taken without single shot because locals was happy to return to Russia.
The only bridge Russia blow was Antonovsky bridge in Kherson. Antonovsky bridge is 60 km from the dam down the river. And that bridge was blown only because of decision to evacuate civilians and military exclusively because Ukraine tried a lot to destroy dam and flood the river to cut Russians from Eastern beach. Many was angry about that decision, but now it is obvious that this decision was right.
There is no any difference in defenciveness, because since evacuation from Kherson town, no single Ukrainian military survived in attempt to cross the river. There was no any real threat from right bank occupied by Ukrainians. They just can't cross the river.
Yes.
Yes.
Yes.
So only last three of your "factors" are factual.
Gains what? Do you understand that goals of Russia and Ukraine is different?
Ukraine goal is to kill as much Russian civilians as possible. They openly declared that goal since 2014 coup.
Russian goal is to destory Ukrianian military.
Obviously, flooding civilians does not help in killing military, but perfect to kill Russian civilians.
Please, tell me ISBN of that book. I want to have that example of complete ignorance and insanity.
There was no any fucking Ukraine before 1922. There was no such thing at all. There was no any Ukrainian language that was created from the satirical book of bored Russian aristocrat Kotlarevsky who mocked local dialect for lulz. You will not find any single sign of any statehood of that Russian region. Show me Ukrainian coin, f.e. older than 30 years.
Do you understand, that "ukraine/okraine" literally means "outskirts" in Russian? Russia had a lot of "ukraines", and none of them choose this slightly humiliating word as a regional name. Regional name of southern outskirts was Malorussia and Novorussia. Only in 1922 they was named Ukraine officially.
There was no single Roman close than the right bank of Dnestr river. It was country named Romania where some of Romans settled after Rome Empire fall. They never crossed Dnestr, because was not welcomed by Russians.
Part of Romania, Bessarabia, later under name of Modavia was included in Russian Empire only in 1812. This was the fist time in the history, when descendants of Romans could appear on Russian territory.
Older than what? Russian town of Slovensk (now Great Novgorod) was founded in 2049 BC. First Greek settlements on the Nortern beach of Black Sea appeared near 600-500 BC.
Georgia is on the Eastern side of Black Sea. Greek named it Kolkhida when discovered Black Sea in 600 BC. Georgia is completely another civilization. Georgian ancestors, Kartvels, come from Mesopotamia and settled in Georgia around 6000 BC.
Russian's ancestors settled in Eastern Europe at least since last ice age.
LOL. St.Petersburg was build by Peter the Great after his voyage over Western Europe as a copy of average West European town and named Sankt Petersburg, not Saint. You know, kids build small castlles and dollhouses for fun. If you are Peter the Great you build real megapolis for fun.
From Petersburg to Ural mountains, from White Sea to Black Sea, you will find mostly ancient Russian and Sanskrit-like (pre-ancient Russian was close to Sanskrit) toponimes as names of towns, rivers, lakes and all that stuff.
What the fuck is that crap. I didn't ask you to fill in the blanks.
Bullet points. They were explanatory. You can add bullet points, hence I stated there's probably more, and I did it quickly. I didn't need the freaking nonsense.
RUSSIA. UKRAINE.
Now add some factors of why, and how.
It was named after him. Tell me about his ties to the church? However we are talking all the way up the Baltics, western Russia. Chunks of Eastern Europe. Who was this holy roman emperor?
Yes the sanskrit is the planet's oldest language apart from some that is undeciphered because it has no known context. There are a few instances of this. Possibly even in Russia. As well as the Mediterranean, MesoAmerica, etc. Prior to that are glyphs and carvings of various descriptions.