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posted 2 years ago by hello74 2 years ago by hello74 +8 / -2

Do you think AI is going too far? It seems like AI is becoming more popular and advanced. You should see the things AI can do now: write poems https://youtu.be/QAnTG9u_7VQ https://youtube.com/shorts/bdsu3Q40wv8?feature=share, make "art", write essays, etc. (you may have heard of these things) It's also more advanced than before.

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– CrazyRussian 3 points 2 years ago +3 / -0

Fascinating.

I still can't figure out, why people who seem to do not accept blatant lies about "covid-19" or "safe and effective vaccine" from MSM and proud of that, at the same time easily fall into believing the same blatant lies about existence of AI from the exact same sources.

Is it a new kind of selective stupidity? Here we are smart and critical, and don't believe lies abour "deadly virus", but here we instantly forgot about critical thinking and all that stuff and follow enemy narrative about existence of AI.

Guys, do you understand that there is no any AI at all? You are discussing absolutely dumb and very simple system of equations and impute non-existing properties to it. Properties this thing can't have in principle.

It is exactly like believing that when you type 2 + 2 in calculator application, your PC "understand" you and "cosciously decides" to do a math for you and show 4 instead of just executing a code that was written specifically to add given numbers.

So what is the difference between "look, COVID-19 is deadly and infectious!" or "look vaccine is safe and effective" and "look, AI could make own decisions and create new things on its own!" for you? Especially taking in account that all that comes from exactly same source.

I'm just trying to figure how that selective stupidity could possibly coexist with critical thinking in someone mind....

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– VeilOfReality 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

It depends on what you mean by AI. AI will always be an algorithm of some sort at its core. There are advances in allowing these systems to run more autonomously and handle more and more advanced decision trees. To some, this is an AI, to others, it's not. Personally I will consider it AI once the system can ingest data from its own experiences and turn those into meaningful insights. As opposed to now where sanitized data must be manually incorporated into the model

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– CrazyRussian 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

When you began to invent new meanings for some well-established term, or forced to do so, then it should be a giant red flag for any sane person.

AI means Artificial Intelligence, and it imply that there should be some intelligence in it. In all that shit that posed as AI by MSM could not be any signs of any intelligence. It is a dumb automata, that do exactly what it was programed for.

Fuking light switches does not make any "decisions" when user switch the light on or off. So does not all that "AI" crap you fall to.

To some, this is an AI, to others, it's not.

That is exactly the narrative pushed over humanity. "To some this is a man, to others this is a woman".

Bullshit. It is either AI, either not. Either something artificial have real intelligence property, either not. Anything else is just a bullshit.

system can ingest data from its own experiences

It can't. "System" can't have any experiences at all. By definition. This simple thing can do only two things - calculate weights in layers by back-propagation during "training" process, and use that weights to directly calculate result in case of normal propagation. There is no any room for any "expirience" or whatever property those dumbfuck try to impute to that simple system. "Expirience", or "making decisions" just not coded into this simple thing.

All AI you have today is not a bit more intelligent than a light switch on the wall.

Interesting, when WHO had been rewriting definition of vaccine multiple times - do you accepted that shit as easy as you accept that "To some, this is an AI, to others, it's not." bullshit?

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– VeilOfReality 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

I do recognize that people now call those new injections vaccines, yes. To not recognize that would make communication exceedingly difficult. Now I try to avoid calling them vaccines (although I will say vax) but to pretend I don't know what other people are talking about when calling them vaccines would be obtuse

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– CrazyRussian 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

That not the analogy I see.

Say, not-a-vaccine was falsely attributed with properties "safe" and "effective".

I see people who understand that not-a-vaccine in no way safe and effective, and it does not matter how they call it - vaxx, vaccine, jab, shot, whatever. Main thing - they know that it does not have properties "safe" and "effective".

But somehow same people thinks that not-an-AI somehow could have property of deciding something, property of intelligence, property of having kind of will, and so on.

That is the problem that bothers me, not how that not-an-AI is named.

That not-an-AI thing does not decide anything, does not create anything new, does not have any intelligence, could not uncover anything or have kind of will to do something.

It does not have properties MSM attribute to it. It can't have them in principle.

Just like not-a-vaccine can't be safe and effective in principle.

Why one thing is perfectly clear, and another, exactly same thing somehow is not?

Also interesting, that those who got that not-a-vaccine is not what it was declared to be do a lot of digging and enormous efforts to find a truth about not-a-vaccines. Huge and honorable work, really.

And now, the same people somehow don't even want to find out how that not-an-AI really works and why it just can't have any of advertised properties. And unlike with vaccines nobody ban or hide that information. It is publicly available, unlike vaccine data, you could easily not only read everything about how not-an-AI made, but even build and run your own not-an-AI on your own PC and study how it really works by yourself and find out why everything MSM told about not-an-AI is a complete bullshit, exactly like everything they told about not-a-vaccines.

What is that? How is that? Why is that?

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– luckzzzy 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

"AI means Artificial Intelligence, and it imply that there should be some intelligence in it" ->> Call it automata or any other term. How do you start making biorobots that are able to think about themselves and take decisions? By starting rudimentary things like ChatGPT. That's only the beggining kiddo :)

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– CrazyRussian 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

ChatGPT, just like any other GPT models, have absolutely nothing to do with any kind of intelligence at all, including one that could be needed for biorobots or whatever.

How do you start making biorobots that are able to think about themselves and take decisions? By starting rudimentary things like ChatGPT.

It is like starting making omelet and cup of coffee by starting with an USB cable and VHS cassete. Go ahead and good luck.

I'm really fascinated about that insanity around non-existing AI and how many so-called "critical thinkers" fall to it. I thought coronahoax was awful revelation about real situation with critical thinking in humans. Suddenly it appeared to be pretty overestimated. Things seems to be much, much worse.

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– free-will-of-choice -1 points 2 years ago +1 / -2

new meanings for some well-established term

TERM, noun [Latin terminus, a limit or boundary.]...what if ones choice to shape "new meanings" can only exist within the boundary of balance?

What if a sentence (life) can only exist within term (inception towards death)?

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– hello74 [S] 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

That's what I meant when talking about AI.

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– free-will-of-choice 0 points 2 years ago +1 / -1

It depends on what you mean by...

a) what existed first...suggested meaning or perceivable meaning?

b) if being able to perceive implies by means of perceivable, then perceiving depends on perceivable...not on suggested.

c) can temporary (life) define meaning for ongoing (inception towards death)...while being within?

to some, this is...to others, it's not.

a) what comes first...suggesting others what is; or being able to perceive what was perceivable?

b) "it's not" aka "it is nothing"...what is nothing? where is nothing? why is nothing? when is nothing? who suggested you that nothing is?

c) is or isn't implies a conflict of reason (is vs isn't)...can one get into such a conflict without consenting by choosing a side?

Reason aka logic aka logos aka suggested words...does nature utter sound in the shape of words or do those within perceivable sound shape suggestible words to each other?

As opposed to now

a) are suggested "before" and "after" in opposition to perceivable "now"?

b) can one be outside of "now"?

c) -tion implies action...what represents opposite of action and where does it exist in relation to action?

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– hello74 [S] 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

Those kinds of things you're talking about are just programmed to do actions, unlike the kind of things I'm talking about, where it draws from infromation and it's own experiences and makes something new, Like chatbots you could interact with, and they reply or AI that writes things. The AI would not be able to do those things if it was just simply programmed to carry out specific actions. I don't believe everything the msm says, but not everything is a lie. Like when they revealed how low the death rate is for covid, which they actually did on some news channels and so did the cdc. Although, they continued to fear monger.

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– CrazyRussian 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

where it draws from infromation and it's own experiences and makes something new,

It does not. The main thing is that it just does not, because it can't. There is nothing inside that could do that.

Like chatbots you could interact with, and they reply or AI that writes things. The AI would not be able to do those things if it was just simply programmed to carry out specific actions.

Check old toy program named Eliza written in Perl (based on 1966 concept) long ago. Today it is available as perl module Chatbot::Eliza in CPAN. It is pretty simple thing, less than few screens of code. It did exactly same thing in mid 90s around internet without any hype. I had run it on forums to make luls from users who had long discussions and arguing with it without having clue that they talk with a program. It is even more advanced than modern AI, because it builds structure of concepts and you are able to teach it the meaning of new things and it will use them in dialogues.

Both, Eliza and modern ANNs are exactly programmed to carry out specific actions, no more no less.

You miss the point completely. As soon as most people will be convinced in a lie that not-an-AI have some more intellect than light switch, all fucking bastards who rule the world will immidiately transfer all their responsibility to that not-an-AI to avoid any even highly improbable consequences. That is the only purpose of all that false AI narrative.

All research in areas of computer science that could really move us close to creation of something that could really be named "artificial intelligence" was curtailed in mid-90s and ANNs become the only allowed mainstream. There was many promising things in that area, you could even heard about something like "expert systems" or "problem solvers" - that was the traces of that lost technology. Today, you will find nothing except dumb and fully controlled ANNs that could not produce anything new in principle, only repeat things that was put into it by humans.

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– free-will-of-choice -1 points 2 years ago +1 / -2

why...believing ...from the exact same sources?

Those who believe ignore same source (perceivable) for different sources (suggested), hence flip-flopping from one suggestion to another.

Consider this...why go back to liars? Because why bite the hand that feeds truths? Notice that both believers and disbelievers of COVID-19 have consented to COVID-19 as suggested by the same source...this is how those suggesting control both sides of those consenting.

there is no

a) who suggested you that "no" exists; and why did you consent to use it?

b) if "there" (a perceivable location); then does one need to suggest others what it? If location existed before locals within, then why would the locals suggest each other about the location instead of adapting to origin?

Location (inception towards death aka momentum aka balance in motion) exists before locals (life aka being within moment aka choice within balance)...

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