Hahaha. It's the Ukrainian Counter Offense
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I can't even tell what any of these talking points are supposed to mean.
I don't know either.
I cracked a joke at it. I find it ironic. Except it clearly causes recourse. Hard to say what.
I then tried to break down its incident? Attacks inside Russia by armed militias happened yesterday. They then announced who they are, and are now fully committed to it. Various attacks have been happening in that Russian region, inside Russia increasingly. Particularly after Ukraine reinforced Karkiv, prior to Bakhmut, when Russia pulled back.
A short distance from Karkiv. Are obviously operating in Russian territory. Attacks on railway, depots, refineries, and industy in the Russian neighbouring Oblast have increased.
Curiously how did Ukraine get behind any lines.
These perhaps haven't been as offensive? But the border is becoming breached by forms of counter warfare.
No, it isn't that counter offensive. But instead is a means of incited and sponsored combat within Russia.
False Flag, unlikely. Attacks are being made outside of this incident. Yesterday or not too long back these groups identified themselves as oppositional Russian militias. But they have direct links to Ukraine, and have stated are acting on their behalf, thorough their goals, also by acquiring various weapons and personnel who are fighting Russia, for Ukrainian territory, despite supposedly identifying as Russian. Clearly they're sponsored and propagated by Ukraine? They're trying to incite separation from Russia, and are attacking Russia, in tit for tat comedy. Only Ukraine could think of something so utterly daft, where it has taken all this time to instigate. Instigation has been occurring after Ukraine reinforced Karkiv prior to Bakhmut?
Result of this incident and attacks causes further escalation.
I don't know anything about it. It hit the news yesterday, western media dismissed it, distancing it being from Ukraine. Except when Ukraine attacks targets, railways, refineries, depots, industry in Belgorod oblast it has praised it, but look at these insurgents?
Well, I guess it's time for a referendum and if they want to be part of Ukraine, Russia should accept it, right?
No. It proves undeniably Ukraine are directly attacking inside of Russia. Something they claimed otherwise. Another lie. The media said they could with new missiles and drones. Also IEDs etc. Attacking various refineries, industry, storage, depots, railways.
However these groups, two, had brand new vehicles which had just been donated to the Ukraine. They also had guns and ammo from the Ukraine. These are insurgents propagated and even trained from inside the Ukraine.
The same Ukrainians who went to the Russian border last year and claimed what? Do you remember that news. CNN, BBC all the newspapers. The Russians have retreated from Karkiv. But there's a group of dumb Ukrainians at the border expanding it? Remember that footage. Why would they need to show that footage? It made no real sense, unless as it was reported, Ukraine had fully occupied the border there. They claimed expanding it.
Somehow you think in your dumb opinion. Sane people. All this time, over 10 years. Declare something else today. This year. Sane people. Look at Ukraine. Suddenly want a referendum to join the Ukraine today. Hahahaha. Dumbass.
So what if Ukraine is attacking Russia directly. You reap what you sow.
I am concerned like everybody else it doesn't escalate into a much bigger war. Where it leads to direct involvement.
The problem is they attacked with brand new equipment just given to Ukraine. Ukraine has denied it would attack inside of Russian territory with the arms given. Also as an example with newer missiles, and with drones, they are and have. What about if they get f16s? They're already training, meaning they have been for much longer.
Here they're sending troops directly into Russia. It becomes problematic.
I am speaking to idiot if you think it somehow is not a problem. The West are directly declaring war on Russia. They give guns to Ukraine who are not only attacking with missiles and drones, they're also sending troops to attack civilian targets inside of Russia.
Think??? About how it keeps escalating. At what point doesn't it cause a bigger war?
I've been hearing for a year that "if Ukraine does X, the war will escalate".
The war escalated when Russia invaded. How will Russia escalate? Send more rapists and murderers?
Their nonexistent Wunderwaffen?
You still think Ukraine can win? Tell me how this occurs. Think. Karkiv attacking Belgorod causes Karkiv to be attacked far worse. It's how this war has occurred. Ukraine attacking separatists and rejecting Russian territory of the Crimea. It has caused Ukraine to win what? Weapons? As it sheds more territory and makes fields of graves currently. It hasn't won anything. Look at it. Fields and fields and fields of graves. Ukraine winning what? Some other notion of its borders, where it directly wants and threatens the Crimea, and it hosts a Russian nuclear base. Nuclear base, and multiple Russian bases and facilities. Ukraine is going to win exactly what, more weapons too, go on and look at it? Tell me how its counter offensive is going to beat Russia. The minute it actually threatens Russia, what actually occurs? Russia goes home, or what does it do?
But you're still under some dumb illusion there is another winner here? Not without it becoming a larger war by it having increasing involvement, and it causes. Think. It caused a conflict already. Not stupid comments. Ukraine can't beat Russia, if it could it wouldn't need a bunch of weapons, and all of Nato, funding it, and all they've done is cause even more Ukrainian causalties, and actual losses to Ukraine. But this is what you're selling it takes correct? Ukraine supposedly beating Russia, and Ukraine winning the Crimea, and all the other Russian territory? Tell me how that happens, without a larger war, and then it causes which weapons, and it does what to the planet? How big is Russia curiously?
Escalation keeps occurring. When does it stop?
When Russia leaves Ukraine. It's that simple.
I don't get you people. Russia invaded Ukraine and somehow it's Ukraine's fault that the war is still going on?
What do you want Ukraine to do? Surrender? You do know what Russia does when they conquer a nation? Rape and murder and genocide. It's well-documented. Ukraine suffered under Russia already for generations, why on earth would they want to go back there?
So, tell me. What's your solution?
You're an idiot.
It stops with more dead Ukrainians obviously. Let's compare populations. Look at that. Russia has millions and millions and millions more. Who will die first? It is all Ukraine have done. Die. They haven't gained anything except weapons they shoot themselves with.
Somehow it is fucking ironic. You're under another dumb illusion. Where you think Ukraine will capture a Russian nuclear base. In Crimea. Or Ukraine will kill off Russian separatists. It will expand its territory? You're a megalomaniac. Insane. Crazy. Stupid. There is no negotiation there. It's only nukes on a Nuclear base.
So what's it take, more dead Ukrainians and they're piling up? Tell me, because saying Russia leave, is idiocy. It is home, and it ain't going anywhere. The minute that home becomes threatened. Look. Conflict.
Dumbass. Literal grandiosity, and megalomania. More dead Ukrainians are going to capture Russian territory? How's that working out? Seriously.
Solution, was brokering a peace deal. Now it has become increasingly difficult. Because the smurf in charge thinks he's Napoleon. He has a Napoleon complex. He is determined to fight Russia to the last man demanding that the rest of the World pay for his ego. If he gets better weapons and more money it buys bigger ego. The entire time his population bleeds, graves and graves and graves of the dead. All because he doesn't accept that's a Russian nuclear base and there were a bunch of Russians in a nation that had an open border with Russia.
Broker peace. Or it escalates, and there is no limit to it, when the rest of the planet is at stake. No limits.