Making this thread again since the Tucker video renewed interest in it. This is a great video debunking the popular “Truther” claims about Build 7. https://youtu.be/7PpsCCTMP8w
The points brought up in the video are:
• “Why wasn’t building 7 ever mentioned in the 911 Commission Reports?”
This is because the Commission Reports were specifically about the actual targets of the attacks, not collateral damage like WTC 7. It was however investigated in a NIST report which is here https://www.nist.gov/publications/final-report-collapse-world-trade-center-building-7-federal-building-and-fire-safety-0
• “How could it collapse if it never was hit by a plane?”
Pretty simple, huge chunks of burning debris crashed in through the top of WTC 7 from the towers. This not only caused massive structural damage, but also caused a massive fire to spread throughout WTC 7.
Truther deceitfully only ever show pictures of it from the south, where it was not struck by debris, making it seem like it was a perfectly fine building that collapsed out of nowhere, but images of it from the north side clearly show the massive damage WTC 7 sustained from the falling debris
• “Building 7 collapsed in free fall out of nowhere! This is only possible through controlled demolition!”
This is just an outright lie. Footage of the attack clearly shows building 7 folding in on itself over the course of hours before finally collapsing. All footage of the “free fall” conveniently only ever starts right as the building falls, it never shows the footage before of the penthouse caving in.
Remember, truth doesn't fear investigation.
Hey OP,
Care to debunk this university study that directly refutes your arguements? Your assumptions rely on the NIST simulation which is shown to be inaccurate and incomplete....
https://ine.uaf.edu/wtc7
This study was headed by "Architects & Engineers for 9/11 Truth" which is a truther conspiracy theory organization. It should also be noted that no one really backed up this report as credible while other engineering experts agreed that the NIST reports findings were accurate and made sense.
from Engineering professor Zdeněk Bažant http://www.civil.northwestern.edu/people/bazant/PDFs/Papers/466.pdf
From structural engineer Ramon Gilsanz https://web.archive.org/web/20090419050714/http://www.structuremag.org/Archives/2007-11/SF-WTC7-Gilsanz-Nov07.pdf
Basically the report you posted is bunk science and a massive cope from the "truther" movement.
So let me get this straight. You are saying that debris from the other buildings caused building 7 to come down EXACTLY like a controlled demolition?
Um......
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debris caused fires, fires caused structural damage, structural damage leads to the building collapsed. I have posted the NIST report and two other reports from renowned Engineering professors that corroborate their report.
Do you deny that debris crashed into WTC 7 or that it caught fire or that there was major structural damage clearly visible on the north side.
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My point is pretty straight forward and I provided evidence to back up my claim. Im asking you what exactly you disagree with and why. What do you think happened and why?
The study was a peer reviewed study from university of Alaska Fairbanks. A credible institution.
You didnt address the source of the argument, that NIST left out key structural elwments in their simulation, that if included proves that the building could not physically have collapsed in the manner it did.
You can dismiss the source out of hand if you want, but it does come from a university, and is peer reviewed, not sure how much more credible you need.
People who cant argue against facts usually try to discredit the source instead of the material.
The study was completely funded by a "truther" organization as I pointed out. Its also pure projection to critize me for dismissing the source when that is exactly what you guys are doing in this thread with the NIST report.
The NIST report is much more credible in terms of the number of people who worked on it and their background, and it was also backed up by the findings of other engineering experts in the field.
Either way, there has NEVER EVER been any evidence of thermite paint of any other explosives found.
So you got nothing. No arguements to refute the paper. Gotcha. Well done.
"got nothing" I already posted all my source, if you want to ignore them then thats your deal.
Since you've apparently decided to come out of hiding and show your nose to the world again, I presented you with the following that you ignored. Hopefully you can answer it this time:
Can you please provide NIST's full building collapse model? They didn't. Maybe you can.
Saying something is bunk science without addressing anything specifically is mega cope, just so you know.
I included the second part of the original comment just because of our earlier interaction. lmao
https://www.nist.gov/pao/questions-and-answers-about-nist-wtc-7-investigation
Stop being a gullible lazy conspiracy tard and have some self respect.
Lol good work
Can you please provide NIST's full building collapse model? They didn't. Maybe you can.
Saying something is bunk science without addressing anything specifically is mega cope, just so you know.
The cause of the collapse was due to the terrorists passport they found intact in the rumble. 🤪
What about it doesnt look organic to you? I think this is because footage is selectively edited to fit the truther narrative and it doesnt show that the north side of the building was completely caved it, the entire building had a raging fire inside of it for hours, and the building was slowly collapsing in on itself for hours.
The truther videos only ever show that video of it collapsing from the south at the final cave in so it looks like it collapses out of no where.
Mainly the part where it complete defies physics by not following the path of least resistance. There was entirely too much reinforced mass below for the affected area above to cause the collapse it did. This is high school level stuff. The structure would have to be tremendously weakened all throughout prior to collapse in order to generate the collapse it did. Same goes for the twin towers.
"Stuff doesn't happen like that." Yes it does. The video I posted in my original post has footage of the north side. It also shows how the building slowly collapsed over the course of hours, including the penthouse caving in, which is always selectively left out of "truther" videos.
"I jogged through" try actually watching it instead of asking me to spoon feed you every step of the way. The video is only about 10 min.
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Nice damage control, Cyber1776.
Sure thing newfag. Fact is you guys have nothing to argue against with and can only have emotionally outburst.
The absolute pinnacle of conspiracy tard insight.
Yeah, youre right, dancing jews is solid stone cold evidence that Osama dindu nuffin! I guess the fact that Khalid Sheik Muhammed, who planned this attack, also tried to bomb the WTC back in 1993 is "just a coincidence!" lol.
“Jews danced, this is solid evidence that the attacks on WTC were controlled demolition by the Illuminati” This is the sort of logic a mentally deficient person would use. It makes no sense at all and doesn’t even address the points about WTC 7
I'm going surfing on your forum sliding! Gag me with a spoon;
I already addressed this. Good job ignoring that Khalid Sheik Mohammed had already tried blowing up the world trade center in 1993, even saying he would come back and try to do it again in the future. Im sure thats just a coincidence, right? Because ugh...jews danced!
Thats right coward, run away.
Thanks for posting this OP.
I would also add that the Jew who owned the towers who said "pull it" about building 7 was not talking about the demolition, but pull the fire fighting operation that was trying to save the building for the past 8+ hours. Why? I don't know, maybe it was more insurance money or maybe he thought it was a lost cause. Either way, "pull it" was not an order to demo it 8 fucking hours later.
I guess its just a coincidence that KSM was the guy who orchestrated this attack just so happened to be the same guy who tried to bomb the WTC back in 1993, right?
You know that's how the CIA works, right?
So do you have nothing to say? Are you so spineless that you cant even just say what you think happened when asked outright?
I'm at work. I'm not comin atcha straight from grandmas basement. No time. I think you KNOW what happened, bud.
lol youve been shitposting this whole time and youre going to pull this "I cant be bothered" shit? The truth is that youre a spineless faggot who cant make a definite statement. I made this thread on a hostile forum and you cant even state your position? You guys are such cowards.