I don't know man, I've thought this through for a lot of years, and I'm fairly convinced it is the most viable path.
You're generally one of the smarter people on forums, so I'm interested to hear your reasoning, but here is mine:
Direct attack (of any kind) against them is pointless. You're not going to beat them at the game they own, control top to bottom and can change the rules for. Any direct attack and they will use it to end you (in whatever form that means in whatever the situation is).
The answer, to me, is the same as the rest of life in general, get others to play your game, and play to your strengths. It is just another form of asymmetric warfare. Build communities of people locally that can sustain a complete economy outside of the mainstream system, and build networks of those communities for trade, travel, protection, etc.
Economics rules all, and it is not economically viable for them to come after an entire decentralized society if it is not directly interfering with theirs. They would likely kill or imprison higher profile players at times to scare others from following, but not go after then entirety of the parallel societies.
The concept is similar to the Taliban and/or Ghandi and/or plenty of other examples of asymmetric long-term wins, even if those official stories are mostly BS.
Yes, they will make it extremely difficult for most to survive without full compliance, but there is always another way, IME. Eventually, this system they are building will collapse (I mean after the fake collapse they are currently orchestrating), though that could take 100 years or more.
Even if you don't buy into the full parallel society plan, mass noncompliance is the answer. Everything they are doing is dependent on almost total compliance. Even 10%, but ideally 30% and there is just way they can move down those paths.
I just can't see how you win a kinetic war against the most heavily armed opponent in history though.
And I go back to everything is economics. It would be incredibly, prohibitively expensive to go after everyone that does not participate in their system, especially if there is no direct interference with their plans. The ROI is not there, nor is the public's appetite to participate in a long drawn out war against their own citizens, no matter how much the propaganda machine can brainwash them.
Yes, they would go after some of the more high profile people, to make an example of them, but it just isn't feasible to go after everyone.
As long as a parallel system has a complete enough economy to mostly survive without needing to depend on the mainstream, then it would mostly be safe.
EDIT: this is not to say don't band together and defend what is rightfully yours if and when they come for you, definitely do that. just saying offense is not the winning game that I can tell.
I just can't see how you win a kinetic war against the most heavily armed opponent in history though.
Vietnam, Afghanistan, and Iraq seemed to manage it.
It would be incredibly, prohibitively expensive to go after everyone that does not participate in their system
They print currency out of thin air. Cost means nothing to them. Release a media report saying we’re all terrorists and their supporters will line up to kill us for free. They’re literally on the verge of doing this already.
especially if there is no direct interference with their plans
Their plan is literally to exterminate every white person from the face of the earth. Us being alive is direct interference.
As long as a parallel system has a complete enough economy to mostly survive without needing to depend on the mainstream, then it would mostly be safe.
Tell that to every nation that tried to exit the IMF system. Oh wait, you can’t; they invaded, killed the government, bombed the infrastructure to rubble and replaced them with puppets…
Vietnam, Afghanistan and Iraq are roughly the models I'm advocating. None of those initiated a full on direct kinetic war, they moved out of the cities and defended what was rightfully theirs, and largely outlasted and maintained their ways of life to varying degrees. Asymmetric warfare.
And it kind of proves my point, they didn't go through every mountain rooting out opposition, because that is not economically viable. They mostly went after figureheads and those that were directly causing problems.
Same with "nations that tried to exit the IMF"...I'm not talking about creating a nation state, I'm talking about creating a parallel society that exists alongside the mainstream system but does not directly compete. Live on the outskirts of the system, interacting at the edges and the black markets within, and wait for its eventual collapse (comparable to the US eventually leaving Vietnam, Afghanistan and Iraq).
I agree, though, they do seem intent on exterminating us, but as far as saving our nation states, I don't think there is any coming back from where we're at. In that sense they've already won. Move to the outskirts and wait for it to collapse.
If things were to swing back hard the other way, I'd be afraid it was a setup like Germany after Weimar. That may have seemed great for a decade, but how did it end?
I don't know man, I've thought this through for a lot of years, and I'm fairly convinced it is the most viable path.
You're generally one of the smarter people on forums, so I'm interested to hear your reasoning, but here is mine:
Direct attack (of any kind) against them is pointless. You're not going to beat them at the game they own, control top to bottom and can change the rules for. Any direct attack and they will use it to end you (in whatever form that means in whatever the situation is).
The answer, to me, is the same as the rest of life in general, get others to play your game, and play to your strengths. It is just another form of asymmetric warfare. Build communities of people locally that can sustain a complete economy outside of the mainstream system, and build networks of those communities for trade, travel, protection, etc.
Economics rules all, and it is not economically viable for them to come after an entire decentralized society if it is not directly interfering with theirs. They would likely kill or imprison higher profile players at times to scare others from following, but not go after then entirety of the parallel societies.
The concept is similar to the Taliban and/or Ghandi and/or plenty of other examples of asymmetric long-term wins, even if those official stories are mostly BS.
Yes, they will make it extremely difficult for most to survive without full compliance, but there is always another way, IME. Eventually, this system they are building will collapse (I mean after the fake collapse they are currently orchestrating), though that could take 100 years or more.
Even if you don't buy into the full parallel society plan, mass noncompliance is the answer. Everything they are doing is dependent on almost total compliance. Even 10%, but ideally 30% and there is just way they can move down those paths.
This means shooting them, though. They’re not going to allow you to “peacefully” disobey their rules.
I just can't see how you win a kinetic war against the most heavily armed opponent in history though.
And I go back to everything is economics. It would be incredibly, prohibitively expensive to go after everyone that does not participate in their system, especially if there is no direct interference with their plans. The ROI is not there, nor is the public's appetite to participate in a long drawn out war against their own citizens, no matter how much the propaganda machine can brainwash them.
Yes, they would go after some of the more high profile people, to make an example of them, but it just isn't feasible to go after everyone.
As long as a parallel system has a complete enough economy to mostly survive without needing to depend on the mainstream, then it would mostly be safe.
EDIT: this is not to say don't band together and defend what is rightfully yours if and when they come for you, definitely do that. just saying offense is not the winning game that I can tell.
Vietnam, Afghanistan, and Iraq seemed to manage it.
They print currency out of thin air. Cost means nothing to them. Release a media report saying we’re all terrorists and their supporters will line up to kill us for free. They’re literally on the verge of doing this already.
Their plan is literally to exterminate every white person from the face of the earth. Us being alive is direct interference.
Tell that to every nation that tried to exit the IMF system. Oh wait, you can’t; they invaded, killed the government, bombed the infrastructure to rubble and replaced them with puppets…
Vietnam, Afghanistan and Iraq are roughly the models I'm advocating. None of those initiated a full on direct kinetic war, they moved out of the cities and defended what was rightfully theirs, and largely outlasted and maintained their ways of life to varying degrees. Asymmetric warfare.
And it kind of proves my point, they didn't go through every mountain rooting out opposition, because that is not economically viable. They mostly went after figureheads and those that were directly causing problems.
Same with "nations that tried to exit the IMF"...I'm not talking about creating a nation state, I'm talking about creating a parallel society that exists alongside the mainstream system but does not directly compete. Live on the outskirts of the system, interacting at the edges and the black markets within, and wait for its eventual collapse (comparable to the US eventually leaving Vietnam, Afghanistan and Iraq).
I agree, though, they do seem intent on exterminating us, but as far as saving our nation states, I don't think there is any coming back from where we're at. In that sense they've already won. Move to the outskirts and wait for it to collapse.
If things were to swing back hard the other way, I'd be afraid it was a setup like Germany after Weimar. That may have seemed great for a decade, but how did it end?