Serious question to those who think that Russia's war against Ukraine is justified because of "UKRAINE IS NAZI":
Why do you think that the Nazis were the bad guys?
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Where they bad guys? Yes. Were they worse then the Soviets? Debatable. However, I come down on the side that the Soviets were worse by some measures.
In the end, in Europe at least, I agree with General Patton, who said "we defeated the wrong enemy" right after the war. That's why, he was (probably) assassinated right after he said that.
But Soviet Russia of then, isn't Putin's Russia of today. Neither are the Nazis of then the Ukranians of today.
What's with that Patton guy? I saw that name along with that quote from time to time, so I read some memoirs about and Patton bios from "The Patton Society", and get an impression that he was very average military, who gained popularity showing his ass to his colleagues and made a career due to close relations with Eisenhower (showed him ass too?). Patton never participate in any serious battles (which is somehow posed as his care about his troops) and often had kind of hysterics against his subordinates, but with higher command was very polite. Definitely not a person to listen. Not to harm somebody feelings or destroy a nation hero, but that's weird.
However, I agree with his saying about "defeating wrong enemy". UK should have been defeated, not Germany in WWII. Hitler was fooled to attack USSR, by UK, Instead, better he had to ally with USSR to get rid of British Crown and their inbreed jewish shabbesaristocracy forever. USA had to stay apart, or may be deal with Japan warmongers only. We would have completely different and much better world now, I guess. And may be Jews would have never obtained such power they have now.
Patton was one of the better generals the US had, and colorful personality at that. For example, he famously wore a pearl handled revolver. His popularity today in a large part comes from a 1970 film (https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0066206/) where he was portrayed by a great actor, helping enhance his reputation, but he was famous enough for the movie to be made in the first place.
In the world's history of great generals, like Napoleon, or Scipio Africanus, etc. he'd be down in the rankings a bit, but definitely an honorable mention. I quite disagree with your assessment of his abilities, but meh, you went out of your way to be somewhat civil, so it's all good.
Looking from the point of view of personality, yes, you are right, he was a colorful person among his brothers in arms. May be I just too used to generals bios with schemes of the battles, and all that boring stuff. From the latter point of view somewone like Bradley looks better f.e.
Patton is should be best remembered as one who often took the German's blitzkrieg tactics and used it against them, from North Africa, through Italy, across France, then all the way across the Rhine, starting with an army of unprepared men and ending with skilled veterans. If that doesn't deserve an honorable mention, I don't know what does.
If he was in the US military today, he'd have resigned his commission.