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BBC: nato frontlines out of ammunition, Russia resorts to using shovels to keep it fair (media.scored.co)
posted 2 years ago by HonestTruth 2 years ago by HonestTruth +8 / -1
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– BlueDrache 6 points 2 years ago +6 / -0

I call bullshit.

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– CrazyRussian 4 points 2 years ago +4 / -0

It is true that some special forces trained to effectively use that sapper shovels shown on photo as weapon. Kind of Russian version of tomahawk. Silent, deadly and handy thing, that shovel blade is made from very good, nearly knife grade steel (have one in car trunk as a tool). So, it is quite possible that in some circumstances some reconnaissance/saboteur group killed some enemy guard with shovel.

That is the only truth behind that article.

Also, there exist an old anecdote (just like about any profession) about engineering forces (stroybat) - "Stroybat is toughest Russian forces among all, they even afraid to give them guns, looking at what they do with shovels."

Something tell me that in other countries, special forces have a lessons of using sapper shovels as a weapon too and that is not uncommon thing at all.

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– deleted 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0
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– CrazyRussian 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

Funny, I'm trying to find what is official military shovel in US, as "navy seal shovel", "special forces shovel", etc, but google gives me mostly images of that Soviet standard sapper/trench shovel and it's modern varieties from amazon or survivalist and tourist hardware sites.

Theoretically Gerber could produce such kind of equipment for US military, but I could not find any mention of that on their site, only camping things.

What is official military shovel in US? Sapper shovel, trench shovel, something like that definitely should exist, I'm shure.

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– Mad_King_Kalak 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

I saw this, and my first thought was Battlefield I where the trench shovel/ax is a melee weapon.

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– HonestTruth [S] 1 point 2 years ago +2 / -1

Yes, I have heard the stories, pretty standard stuff honestly.

I made this post mostly in jest of the wording used.

How would it make sense to anyone Russians would use melee weapons in placement of guns in any mind. Clearly they would be taken out at range.

For close quarter fighting, I suspect a shovel would be a decent choice.

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– CrazyRussian 3 points 2 years ago +3 / -0

Do you know what exact model of shovel used by US military as trench/sapper one? Can't find any info on that. And obviously, special forces have to have such tool for obvious reasons.

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– HonestTruth [S] 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

No, I took a quick pass and there seems to be no direct verified answer I could find easily.

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– roadkill77 3 points 2 years ago +4 / -1

mariupol has fallen ... but we dont need it..

Kherson has fallen ... but we dont need it

kharkov has fallen... but we dont need it

azozstol has fallen.. but we dont need it...

backmuht has fallen .. but we dont need it... <--- you are here

see how easy it is to launder money and fight a war?

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– deleted 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0
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– Fuggergeschaft1 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

the fake media shovelling fake wars onto the dumbed down masses

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