I think we're pretty on the same page as far as modern aliens go.
What do you think the Annunaki were? Do you think they were a creator race? Or do you think there's some crossover with the Watchers/Nephilim from the book of Enoch?
They were definitely the creator race, huge pile of evidence for that along many lines. One item I learned about recently was that the phrase "in our image" in the Bible was translated from a Hebrew word with the deep etymology "cut out from". In modern English we would say "cut from the same cloth". That's pretty damn close to "genetic engineering", keeping in mind that the people writing these things down were fresh out of the Bronze Age.
As a quick aside on terminology, we would specify that the Anunnaki were those natives of Nibiru that traveled to Earth, and the Nibiruans were the race itself. In almost all cases, though, you'll find that "Anunnaki" is used both for the members of the expedition and for the race.
The Anunnaki of the expedition are one and the same as the "Watchers" of Enoch, but that word results from a mistranslation and people mistakenly think it has something to do with their function. The original Sumerian word was I.GI.GI, which can be and was translated as "watchers". But it can also be translated as the number 600, and I firmly believe this is what the Sumerians meant: that there were 600 members of the expedition.Many confirming pieces of evidence for that.
The Nephilim, meaning something like "The Fallen", were Anunnaki/human hybrids. It long puzzled me that the Bible included breeding between "angels" and humans. Bible scholars either ignore it or just wave their hands around and claim angels can do anything. But with the correct interpretation we see the possibility: we're already genetically part Anunnaki. It also explains the giantism, which you find for specific genetic reasons in another hybrid, the liger.
The first question is what I think we know least about, and we have to piece it together from tiny clues. I think "They" told us something about the situation in the book "Childhood's End" by Arthur C. Clarke. Spoiler: an alien master race comes to Earth but carefully conceals their appearance from humans because humans will find it too disturbing. Turns out they resemble the Devil.
So if I had to bet money, I think they resemble the Devil, although maybe more reptilian. And in a boomerang, my research has indicated without doubt that the Devil was one of the Anunnaki. You have to shovel away a huge pile of incorrect interpretation of the "authorities" to get to that, though, but I think you can see how it starts to fall into place.
Some of that I'm familiar with, but you have some specifics I've never heard before, like the expedition size. And yea, I was wondering what you'd think of the hybrids/angels/giants.
So, I'm definitely more familiar with the Biblical and apocryphal side of things. But I'm at least aware of a lot of these ideas. Lately, I've been looking into the notion that Noah was one of the last non-corrupt humans (genetically speaking) left on Earth after this whole Nephilim debacle. Do you think that's why God flooded the earth? Or do you lean toward happenstance (pole shifts?), or something else altogether?
Also, the "authorities" issue is interesting. It gets kind've squirrely going back that far though, right? To some degree you have to pick which authorities you listen to. I tend to look for what makes sense, connect the dots, and go with my gut in these instances. You got anything that makes you really certain of this whole story, or is it just the best explanation you have at the moment?
There's just a ton of speculation out there about what the whole Noah story was about. I came across some writing that I feel is crucial to sorting out some of the issues which seems to almost be unknown:
Short as it is, it's full of what I think of as "anomalous evidence". That is, very strange statements are made that don't lend themselves to what most people like, which is a "storybook narrative" that can made to support their existing worldview. So when I find an interpretation of these very strange things that fits the very strange theories I have, I find it very convincing.
So as concerns Noah, he was said to be "perfect in his generations". Every researcher thinks that means he was of purely human genetics. But that fragment says his appearance was so odd his father believes he was sired by an angel! When the issue eventually makes it to Enoch, he says, "Don't worry about it, he's Lamech's son. A big flood is coming and Noah and his sons are going to survive it." Noah also lived almost a thousand years, so I would say there's no way he was a human like you and me.
Making it more odd is that the Flood doesn't come for 600 more years! Pretty delayed for a punishment. Other sources and even certain interpretations of Bible passages seem to indicate the Flood was caused by the close passage of Nibiru.
What makes sense to me is that the return of Nibiru could be predicted as far ahead as one would like, and perhaps it was known that this next one would be a close passage causing great destruction. As I put it together, Yahweh decided that--given the Nephilim genetics floating around causing a lot of evil and a lot of suffering--he'd just go ahead and let the whole place get reset. (Longer story, but Enoch had apparently been talking to Yahweh's half-brother, the scientist that engineered humans and who wanted to save some people.)
As to the issue of how certain I am about this, well, there's a limit to how certain you can be with fragmentary evidence. But I see over and over and over how the wildest aspects of the story I've put together lock into place with one another.
There's one such example in that fragment of the Book of Noah. Long story, but I had put together that Atlantis was an empire based in Antarctica before it shifted to it's current position, and further that it had been founded by Poseidon, who was actually Enki who I mentioned above.
When Methuselah seeks out Enoch, he finds him at "the ends of the earth". If you had to pick out where the ends of the Earth were, would you come up with anything other than the Arctic and Antarctic?
I mean, I'm decently creative, but I couldn't begin to come up with these interlocking associations if I tried. And I've found so many I refuse to think it's all coincidence.
Interesting. Interesting... I'd actually never heard of the book of Noah. Didn't know that was in the dead sea scrolls. Cool read.
I don't know about Atlantis being in Antarctica. Lately, I really like Jimmy Corsetti's Richat structure explanation on the Bright Insight channel. But I do tend to agree that there is something weird going on with Antarctica, and that it's a candidate.
This whole idea that people were eating frozen mammoths in like the 30s (kind've) and that Greenland was insta-frozen has me thinking the Pole Shift thing might be a reasonable catalyst for the flood after all. And that also plays into a bunch of other things.
It might also explain why so much of our history is lost, why the Hopi think the world has been destroyed 3 times in the past, why Plato talks about the Egyptians mentioning the same thing.
As far as people living for thousands of years, I have no idea there. I've heard that's the curse (from Genesis) doing its work. I've heard that maybe because of the weakening of the magnetic field we're just more exposed and dying sooner. I've even heard there was a vapor canopy covering the earth. Your idea though is that Noah wasn't a pure human at all?
And you used the term Yahweh. Do you believe in God then, like a greater God, creator of the the universe? It's sounding like your thought is the Annunaki were closer to him?
...And what do you think about the idea of a Messiah? That's a concept that's sort of everywhere historically.
I think we're pretty on the same page as far as modern aliens go.
What do you think the Annunaki were? Do you think they were a creator race? Or do you think there's some crossover with the Watchers/Nephilim from the book of Enoch?
They were definitely the creator race, huge pile of evidence for that along many lines. One item I learned about recently was that the phrase "in our image" in the Bible was translated from a Hebrew word with the deep etymology "cut out from". In modern English we would say "cut from the same cloth". That's pretty damn close to "genetic engineering", keeping in mind that the people writing these things down were fresh out of the Bronze Age.
As a quick aside on terminology, we would specify that the Anunnaki were those natives of Nibiru that traveled to Earth, and the Nibiruans were the race itself. In almost all cases, though, you'll find that "Anunnaki" is used both for the members of the expedition and for the race.
The Anunnaki of the expedition are one and the same as the "Watchers" of Enoch, but that word results from a mistranslation and people mistakenly think it has something to do with their function. The original Sumerian word was I.GI.GI, which can be and was translated as "watchers". But it can also be translated as the number 600, and I firmly believe this is what the Sumerians meant: that there were 600 members of the expedition.Many confirming pieces of evidence for that.
The Nephilim, meaning something like "The Fallen", were Anunnaki/human hybrids. It long puzzled me that the Bible included breeding between "angels" and humans. Bible scholars either ignore it or just wave their hands around and claim angels can do anything. But with the correct interpretation we see the possibility: we're already genetically part Anunnaki. It also explains the giantism, which you find for specific genetic reasons in another hybrid, the liger.
The first question is what I think we know least about, and we have to piece it together from tiny clues. I think "They" told us something about the situation in the book "Childhood's End" by Arthur C. Clarke. Spoiler: an alien master race comes to Earth but carefully conceals their appearance from humans because humans will find it too disturbing. Turns out they resemble the Devil.
So if I had to bet money, I think they resemble the Devil, although maybe more reptilian. And in a boomerang, my research has indicated without doubt that the Devil was one of the Anunnaki. You have to shovel away a huge pile of incorrect interpretation of the "authorities" to get to that, though, but I think you can see how it starts to fall into place.
Some of that I'm familiar with, but you have some specifics I've never heard before, like the expedition size. And yea, I was wondering what you'd think of the hybrids/angels/giants.
So, I'm definitely more familiar with the Biblical and apocryphal side of things. But I'm at least aware of a lot of these ideas. Lately, I've been looking into the notion that Noah was one of the last non-corrupt humans (genetically speaking) left on Earth after this whole Nephilim debacle. Do you think that's why God flooded the earth? Or do you lean toward happenstance (pole shifts?), or something else altogether?
Also, the "authorities" issue is interesting. It gets kind've squirrely going back that far though, right? To some degree you have to pick which authorities you listen to. I tend to look for what makes sense, connect the dots, and go with my gut in these instances. You got anything that makes you really certain of this whole story, or is it just the best explanation you have at the moment?
There's just a ton of speculation out there about what the whole Noah story was about. I came across some writing that I feel is crucial to sorting out some of the issues which seems to almost be unknown:
FRAGMENT OF THE BOOK OF NOAH
Short as it is, it's full of what I think of as "anomalous evidence". That is, very strange statements are made that don't lend themselves to what most people like, which is a "storybook narrative" that can made to support their existing worldview. So when I find an interpretation of these very strange things that fits the very strange theories I have, I find it very convincing.
So as concerns Noah, he was said to be "perfect in his generations". Every researcher thinks that means he was of purely human genetics. But that fragment says his appearance was so odd his father believes he was sired by an angel! When the issue eventually makes it to Enoch, he says, "Don't worry about it, he's Lamech's son. A big flood is coming and Noah and his sons are going to survive it." Noah also lived almost a thousand years, so I would say there's no way he was a human like you and me.
Making it more odd is that the Flood doesn't come for 600 more years! Pretty delayed for a punishment. Other sources and even certain interpretations of Bible passages seem to indicate the Flood was caused by the close passage of Nibiru.
What makes sense to me is that the return of Nibiru could be predicted as far ahead as one would like, and perhaps it was known that this next one would be a close passage causing great destruction. As I put it together, Yahweh decided that--given the Nephilim genetics floating around causing a lot of evil and a lot of suffering--he'd just go ahead and let the whole place get reset. (Longer story, but Enoch had apparently been talking to Yahweh's half-brother, the scientist that engineered humans and who wanted to save some people.)
As to the issue of how certain I am about this, well, there's a limit to how certain you can be with fragmentary evidence. But I see over and over and over how the wildest aspects of the story I've put together lock into place with one another.
There's one such example in that fragment of the Book of Noah. Long story, but I had put together that Atlantis was an empire based in Antarctica before it shifted to it's current position, and further that it had been founded by Poseidon, who was actually Enki who I mentioned above.
When Methuselah seeks out Enoch, he finds him at "the ends of the earth". If you had to pick out where the ends of the Earth were, would you come up with anything other than the Arctic and Antarctic?
I mean, I'm decently creative, but I couldn't begin to come up with these interlocking associations if I tried. And I've found so many I refuse to think it's all coincidence.
Interesting. Interesting... I'd actually never heard of the book of Noah. Didn't know that was in the dead sea scrolls. Cool read.
I don't know about Atlantis being in Antarctica. Lately, I really like Jimmy Corsetti's Richat structure explanation on the Bright Insight channel. But I do tend to agree that there is something weird going on with Antarctica, and that it's a candidate.
This whole idea that people were eating frozen mammoths in like the 30s (kind've) and that Greenland was insta-frozen has me thinking the Pole Shift thing might be a reasonable catalyst for the flood after all. And that also plays into a bunch of other things.
https://www.theatlantic.com/science/archive/2019/12/permafrozen-dinner/604069/
https://phys.org/news/2021-03-scientists-stunned-beneath-mile-deep-greenland.html
It might also explain why so much of our history is lost, why the Hopi think the world has been destroyed 3 times in the past, why Plato talks about the Egyptians mentioning the same thing.
As far as people living for thousands of years, I have no idea there. I've heard that's the curse (from Genesis) doing its work. I've heard that maybe because of the weakening of the magnetic field we're just more exposed and dying sooner. I've even heard there was a vapor canopy covering the earth. Your idea though is that Noah wasn't a pure human at all?
And you used the term Yahweh. Do you believe in God then, like a greater God, creator of the the universe? It's sounding like your thought is the Annunaki were closer to him?
...And what do you think about the idea of a Messiah? That's a concept that's sort of everywhere historically.