As for UFOs, I fairly recently discovered that Roswell was most assuredly a government psyop--that is, a faked crash and a faked coverup. Then I thought, "Well, why bother with all that unless there was something they're trying to disguise?" To me, they've muddied the waters so completely it's hardly worth the time to sort through it.
The only aliens of which I'm aware are the Anunnaki, and there's an overwhelming amount of evidence for them. You'll notice that "They" handle this one of three ways: make sure you stay ignorant, dismiss and ridicule the subject, or (as with "Ancient Aliens" or Clif High) lead you right into a black hole of nonsense.
But I think that if the Anunnaki are tooling around the Earth in flying saucers there is so much garbage around the phenomenon we'd never be able to know. Then again, maybe that's the point.
I think we're pretty on the same page as far as modern aliens go.
What do you think the Annunaki were? Do you think they were a creator race? Or do you think there's some crossover with the Watchers/Nephilim from the book of Enoch?
They were definitely the creator race, huge pile of evidence for that along many lines. One item I learned about recently was that the phrase "in our image" in the Bible was translated from a Hebrew word with the deep etymology "cut out from". In modern English we would say "cut from the same cloth". That's pretty damn close to "genetic engineering", keeping in mind that the people writing these things down were fresh out of the Bronze Age.
As a quick aside on terminology, we would specify that the Anunnaki were those natives of Nibiru that traveled to Earth, and the Nibiruans were the race itself. In almost all cases, though, you'll find that "Anunnaki" is used both for the members of the expedition and for the race.
The Anunnaki of the expedition are one and the same as the "Watchers" of Enoch, but that word results from a mistranslation and people mistakenly think it has something to do with their function. The original Sumerian word was I.GI.GI, which can be and was translated as "watchers". But it can also be translated as the number 600, and I firmly believe this is what the Sumerians meant: that there were 600 members of the expedition.Many confirming pieces of evidence for that.
The Nephilim, meaning something like "The Fallen", were Anunnaki/human hybrids. It long puzzled me that the Bible included breeding between "angels" and humans. Bible scholars either ignore it or just wave their hands around and claim angels can do anything. But with the correct interpretation we see the possibility: we're already genetically part Anunnaki. It also explains the giantism, which you find for specific genetic reasons in another hybrid, the liger.
The first question is what I think we know least about, and we have to piece it together from tiny clues. I think "They" told us something about the situation in the book "Childhood's End" by Arthur C. Clarke. Spoiler: an alien master race comes to Earth but carefully conceals their appearance from humans because humans will find it too disturbing. Turns out they resemble the Devil.
So if I had to bet money, I think they resemble the Devil, although maybe more reptilian. And in a boomerang, my research has indicated without doubt that the Devil was one of the Anunnaki. You have to shovel away a huge pile of incorrect interpretation of the "authorities" to get to that, though, but I think you can see how it starts to fall into place.
Some of that I'm familiar with, but you have some specifics I've never heard before, like the expedition size. And yea, I was wondering what you'd think of the hybrids/angels/giants.
So, I'm definitely more familiar with the Biblical and apocryphal side of things. But I'm at least aware of a lot of these ideas. Lately, I've been looking into the notion that Noah was one of the last non-corrupt humans (genetically speaking) left on Earth after this whole Nephilim debacle. Do you think that's why God flooded the earth? Or do you lean toward happenstance (pole shifts?), or something else altogether?
Also, the "authorities" issue is interesting. It gets kind've squirrely going back that far though, right? To some degree you have to pick which authorities you listen to. I tend to look for what makes sense, connect the dots, and go with my gut in these instances. You got anything that makes you really certain of this whole story, or is it just the best explanation you have at the moment?
There's just a ton of speculation out there about what the whole Noah story was about. I came across some writing that I feel is crucial to sorting out some of the issues which seems to almost be unknown:
Short as it is, it's full of what I think of as "anomalous evidence". That is, very strange statements are made that don't lend themselves to what most people like, which is a "storybook narrative" that can made to support their existing worldview. So when I find an interpretation of these very strange things that fits the very strange theories I have, I find it very convincing.
So as concerns Noah, he was said to be "perfect in his generations". Every researcher thinks that means he was of purely human genetics. But that fragment says his appearance was so odd his father believes he was sired by an angel! When the issue eventually makes it to Enoch, he says, "Don't worry about it, he's Lamech's son. A big flood is coming and Noah and his sons are going to survive it." Noah also lived almost a thousand years, so I would say there's no way he was a human like you and me.
Making it more odd is that the Flood doesn't come for 600 more years! Pretty delayed for a punishment. Other sources and even certain interpretations of Bible passages seem to indicate the Flood was caused by the close passage of Nibiru.
What makes sense to me is that the return of Nibiru could be predicted as far ahead as one would like, and perhaps it was known that this next one would be a close passage causing great destruction. As I put it together, Yahweh decided that--given the Nephilim genetics floating around causing a lot of evil and a lot of suffering--he'd just go ahead and let the whole place get reset. (Longer story, but Enoch had apparently been talking to Yahweh's half-brother, the scientist that engineered humans and who wanted to save some people.)
As to the issue of how certain I am about this, well, there's a limit to how certain you can be with fragmentary evidence. But I see over and over and over how the wildest aspects of the story I've put together lock into place with one another.
There's one such example in that fragment of the Book of Noah. Long story, but I had put together that Atlantis was an empire based in Antarctica before it shifted to it's current position, and further that it had been founded by Poseidon, who was actually Enki who I mentioned above.
When Methuselah seeks out Enoch, he finds him at "the ends of the earth". If you had to pick out where the ends of the Earth were, would you come up with anything other than the Arctic and Antarctic?
I mean, I'm decently creative, but I couldn't begin to come up with these interlocking associations if I tried. And I've found so many I refuse to think it's all coincidence.
I certainly try to tread carefully.
As for UFOs, I fairly recently discovered that Roswell was most assuredly a government psyop--that is, a faked crash and a faked coverup. Then I thought, "Well, why bother with all that unless there was something they're trying to disguise?" To me, they've muddied the waters so completely it's hardly worth the time to sort through it.
The only aliens of which I'm aware are the Anunnaki, and there's an overwhelming amount of evidence for them. You'll notice that "They" handle this one of three ways: make sure you stay ignorant, dismiss and ridicule the subject, or (as with "Ancient Aliens" or Clif High) lead you right into a black hole of nonsense.
But I think that if the Anunnaki are tooling around the Earth in flying saucers there is so much garbage around the phenomenon we'd never be able to know. Then again, maybe that's the point.
I think we're pretty on the same page as far as modern aliens go.
What do you think the Annunaki were? Do you think they were a creator race? Or do you think there's some crossover with the Watchers/Nephilim from the book of Enoch?
They were definitely the creator race, huge pile of evidence for that along many lines. One item I learned about recently was that the phrase "in our image" in the Bible was translated from a Hebrew word with the deep etymology "cut out from". In modern English we would say "cut from the same cloth". That's pretty damn close to "genetic engineering", keeping in mind that the people writing these things down were fresh out of the Bronze Age.
As a quick aside on terminology, we would specify that the Anunnaki were those natives of Nibiru that traveled to Earth, and the Nibiruans were the race itself. In almost all cases, though, you'll find that "Anunnaki" is used both for the members of the expedition and for the race.
The Anunnaki of the expedition are one and the same as the "Watchers" of Enoch, but that word results from a mistranslation and people mistakenly think it has something to do with their function. The original Sumerian word was I.GI.GI, which can be and was translated as "watchers". But it can also be translated as the number 600, and I firmly believe this is what the Sumerians meant: that there were 600 members of the expedition.Many confirming pieces of evidence for that.
The Nephilim, meaning something like "The Fallen", were Anunnaki/human hybrids. It long puzzled me that the Bible included breeding between "angels" and humans. Bible scholars either ignore it or just wave their hands around and claim angels can do anything. But with the correct interpretation we see the possibility: we're already genetically part Anunnaki. It also explains the giantism, which you find for specific genetic reasons in another hybrid, the liger.
The first question is what I think we know least about, and we have to piece it together from tiny clues. I think "They" told us something about the situation in the book "Childhood's End" by Arthur C. Clarke. Spoiler: an alien master race comes to Earth but carefully conceals their appearance from humans because humans will find it too disturbing. Turns out they resemble the Devil.
So if I had to bet money, I think they resemble the Devil, although maybe more reptilian. And in a boomerang, my research has indicated without doubt that the Devil was one of the Anunnaki. You have to shovel away a huge pile of incorrect interpretation of the "authorities" to get to that, though, but I think you can see how it starts to fall into place.
Some of that I'm familiar with, but you have some specifics I've never heard before, like the expedition size. And yea, I was wondering what you'd think of the hybrids/angels/giants.
So, I'm definitely more familiar with the Biblical and apocryphal side of things. But I'm at least aware of a lot of these ideas. Lately, I've been looking into the notion that Noah was one of the last non-corrupt humans (genetically speaking) left on Earth after this whole Nephilim debacle. Do you think that's why God flooded the earth? Or do you lean toward happenstance (pole shifts?), or something else altogether?
Also, the "authorities" issue is interesting. It gets kind've squirrely going back that far though, right? To some degree you have to pick which authorities you listen to. I tend to look for what makes sense, connect the dots, and go with my gut in these instances. You got anything that makes you really certain of this whole story, or is it just the best explanation you have at the moment?
There's just a ton of speculation out there about what the whole Noah story was about. I came across some writing that I feel is crucial to sorting out some of the issues which seems to almost be unknown:
FRAGMENT OF THE BOOK OF NOAH
Short as it is, it's full of what I think of as "anomalous evidence". That is, very strange statements are made that don't lend themselves to what most people like, which is a "storybook narrative" that can made to support their existing worldview. So when I find an interpretation of these very strange things that fits the very strange theories I have, I find it very convincing.
So as concerns Noah, he was said to be "perfect in his generations". Every researcher thinks that means he was of purely human genetics. But that fragment says his appearance was so odd his father believes he was sired by an angel! When the issue eventually makes it to Enoch, he says, "Don't worry about it, he's Lamech's son. A big flood is coming and Noah and his sons are going to survive it." Noah also lived almost a thousand years, so I would say there's no way he was a human like you and me.
Making it more odd is that the Flood doesn't come for 600 more years! Pretty delayed for a punishment. Other sources and even certain interpretations of Bible passages seem to indicate the Flood was caused by the close passage of Nibiru.
What makes sense to me is that the return of Nibiru could be predicted as far ahead as one would like, and perhaps it was known that this next one would be a close passage causing great destruction. As I put it together, Yahweh decided that--given the Nephilim genetics floating around causing a lot of evil and a lot of suffering--he'd just go ahead and let the whole place get reset. (Longer story, but Enoch had apparently been talking to Yahweh's half-brother, the scientist that engineered humans and who wanted to save some people.)
As to the issue of how certain I am about this, well, there's a limit to how certain you can be with fragmentary evidence. But I see over and over and over how the wildest aspects of the story I've put together lock into place with one another.
There's one such example in that fragment of the Book of Noah. Long story, but I had put together that Atlantis was an empire based in Antarctica before it shifted to it's current position, and further that it had been founded by Poseidon, who was actually Enki who I mentioned above.
When Methuselah seeks out Enoch, he finds him at "the ends of the earth". If you had to pick out where the ends of the Earth were, would you come up with anything other than the Arctic and Antarctic?
I mean, I'm decently creative, but I couldn't begin to come up with these interlocking associations if I tried. And I've found so many I refuse to think it's all coincidence.