Technically, I agree with everything you just said (assuming the same actors are posting the same stuff every day). My only beef is with making the assumption that everybody who disagrees on a topic is acting in bad faith, or assuming that the "science is settled" on a topic. The whole "you're a shill" stuff has been one of the biggest form sliding activities I've seen over the years. I saw it impact Voat, badly, at times.
Pertaining the stuff you're talking about (flat earth), I personally believe the Earth is a globe in space, but I believe a lot of these "flat earth" videos have serious evidence of a massive deception that is going on (esp pertaining NASA, etc.), and I feel like the FE crowd are the only people paying any attention to that stuff, so I have a hard time with the notion that most of these people are acting in bad faith.
Disclaimer: I don't go to the "new" tab, so it's quite possible I'm missing a lot of the spam you guys are talking about, so the difference between our viewpoints may just be ignorance of certain bad actors on my part.
My only beef is with making the assumption that everybody who disagrees on a topic is acting in bad faith
Fair enough, which is why having a list of repeat offenders is necessary to separate the wheat from the chaff. It’s annoying as fuck, because we shouldn’t have to live like this, but in the endlessly ephemeral nature of the Internet, it’s somewhat necessary.
I feel like the FE crowd are the only people paying any attention to that stuff, so I have a hard time with the notion that most of these people are acting in bad faith.
If they cared about “a massive deception,” they would, instead, talk about said deception rather than:
talking about a proven falsehood that a 3rd grader can independently verify
poisoning the well by associating said “real” deception with the aforementioned proven falsehood.
That’s the rub.
Disclaimer: I don't go to the "new" tab, so it's quite possible I'm missing a lot of the spam you guys are talking about
That actually may be the difference between my viewpoint and all of you guys, part of it is that I just come here on my phone, so I don't ever see the full website experience. I just log in and go to the homepage, which defaults to "hot".
Technically, I agree with everything you just said (assuming the same actors are posting the same stuff every day). My only beef is with making the assumption that everybody who disagrees on a topic is acting in bad faith, or assuming that the "science is settled" on a topic. The whole "you're a shill" stuff has been one of the biggest form sliding activities I've seen over the years. I saw it impact Voat, badly, at times.
Pertaining the stuff you're talking about (flat earth), I personally believe the Earth is a globe in space, but I believe a lot of these "flat earth" videos have serious evidence of a massive deception that is going on (esp pertaining NASA, etc.), and I feel like the FE crowd are the only people paying any attention to that stuff, so I have a hard time with the notion that most of these people are acting in bad faith.
Disclaimer: I don't go to the "new" tab, so it's quite possible I'm missing a lot of the spam you guys are talking about, so the difference between our viewpoints may just be ignorance of certain bad actors on my part.
Fair enough, which is why having a list of repeat offenders is necessary to separate the wheat from the chaff. It’s annoying as fuck, because we shouldn’t have to live like this, but in the endlessly ephemeral nature of the Internet, it’s somewhat necessary.
If they cared about “a massive deception,” they would, instead, talk about said deception rather than:
That’s the rub.
Wow, that might be it. I’m always using New.
That actually may be the difference between my viewpoint and all of you guys, part of it is that I just come here on my phone, so I don't ever see the full website experience. I just log in and go to the homepage, which defaults to "hot".