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I really don't think so, the hellfire afterlife concept doesn't make any sense, the part in the scriptures where that one guy visits hell like a tourist and a guy stuck in hell just casually asks for a drop of water on his tongue, does that sound like someone on fire to you, whoever wrote that part clearly had no experience with being on fire, you don't just casually ask for a drop of water like that's gonna do shit to bring you relief, and the fiery place Jesus talked about was this area of ditches where people burned the dead for sanitation purposes, and Jesus was making the point that those people are dead-dead and being granted eternal life is different ie life won't end when the body dies and gets burned in the smoldering pits, the most accurate interpretation of spiritual damnation I've seen is the concept of being 100% cutoff from God forever, and it's really obvious that tptb are already pretty cutoff, they have hit their spiritual rock bottom and are cool with it
That wasn't hell, that was hades/sheol which is the temporal place before the lake of fire.
Lake of fire/hell doesn't happen until after the last judgment in Revelation (also Matt 25 Jesus describes this event)
It's all actually real, terrifyingly so. With autism I've seen this quite clearly for a long time and it's absolutely scary so many have no idea what's coming and have rejected their only hope in Jesus.
It's why I thank God he's taken everything from me in this place to the point I saw Him and I've been running after Him with all my might. Most are comfortable and happy in this world, and it's about to be taken from them.
Valley of Hinnom
I wasn't referring to Christian beliefs specifically. Crime and punishment if you will. I have seen only shallow depths of despair myself and those are cold and damning places where you feel alone, so I can assume that something similar is akin to your ideas. But karma is wide spread and has different interpretations. I definitely was not considering hell fire, as I don't ascribe that myself though it may exist. I meant the various other eternal punishments. There are many. Take for example becoming animals for slaughter for the rest of ones existence as a soul. Each turn another misery, or having to suffer losses later in life and have all the attempted to get through I'll gains, decay disappear and leave them hollow and in the last moments of their lives they may find no solace for the May have no sense of dignity left to retain and could reject salvation as you suggested and essentially die damned.
But they could also die and be hated for eternity in their legacy and despite stealing the moment, they will be hated for all time potentially.
They could also suffer a painful slow agonizing death from a sudden debilitating injury or illness and have no spiritual world left and thus their eternity is just this life and will be miserable (again I don't ascribe to that either)
But in general I think that most religions agree, minus the fake ones and loser ones like satanism and Thelema, that you need to be good in this life.
yes, I like to be heuristic about it
most religions have a concept of hell: hades, naraka, patala, etc
most religions claim your happiness should be limited by morality
most religions claim we are part of a process much larger than ourselves both spatially and temporally