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posted 2 years ago by ghost_of_aswartz 2 years ago by ghost_of_aswartz +10 / -0
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– MO-Carpenter 10 points 2 years ago +10 / -0

I’ve seen a lot of people use iboga as a last ditch effort for recovery. I recommend people avoid drug solutions to drug problems, which for sure includes avoiding MATs too(Medication Assisted Therapies aka suboxone, methodone)

Heroin and benzo addicts die easier than a post-op tranny with a handgun. If you have insurance or Medicare you can go to a rehab. You don’t need a fancy place with massage therapists and steak. You just need to have some time to get through withdrawals and you need to talk about the underlying issues that led to you self destructing in the first place.

I think people can get clean with and without 12-step programs but i I’m telling you it’s a scientific fact that as of today iboga has a higher failure rate than AA/NA/HA. They have a pretty low long term success (as with most addiction recovery) but iboga/ibogaine still has a lower success rate.

Your mileage may very. This topic is near and dear to my heart and I sincerely wish anyone out there struggling and thinking they might need help to talk to someone because you can recover.

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– brahbruh 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

I agree, 100%. Quitting means quitting, not finding a coping mechanism nearly as powerful as the drug.

I've never been into any drugs (aside from social drinking a few times a month), but my brother was into drugs, and he got off them with Suboxone... and has been taking Suboxone ever since, for the past 8 or so year now; if he stops taking it for a day, he may as well be quitting heroin cold turkey, and if he's late taking it, he will turn into a rage monster. His life is ruined by drugs - he hasn't worked in 5 years, and he basically does nothing, ever.

Lesson: don't do drugs, and definitely don't "quit" doing drugs by doing more drugs.

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– instrumental 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

Still waiting on that source.

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– instrumental 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

it’s a scientific fact that as of today iboga has a higher failure rate than AA/NA/HA.

Source?

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