WiFi 5GHz band works in range 5.1-5.9GHz, so should have exactly same effect.
So why 5G causes something, but somehow regular WiFi and other things that works in same 5GHz band, like FPV cameras or weather sensors and even IoT stuff is not?
That obsession with "obviously" "scary", "harmful" 5G is insane and do nothing except breaking validity of any serious questions about influence of high-frequency RF radiation we surrounded for a long time regardless of 5G availability.
Fuck, in the terms of interaction with human body that 5G is not differ from all other things that works in that bands nobody cares about.
I'm not so doomy (does such word exists?) on that.
Humans are very adaptable creatures. All that technological pollutions are far lower than human adaptation levels. And we have no any really scientific data on many things we interfere with.
All that conclusions based on some statisitical observations are interesting, but really ungrounded and, as worst thing are uncheckable. Something is changing, but there are too many factors that could be a reason for changes and problems that every speculator could choose any reason he want to make his point of view and it will be even somehow backed with that statistical data. Look, you say that it is RF, but your opponent will say it is climate change or some other shit. And both of you will not able to provide any scientific proof, i.e. reproduceable experiment that prove that it is your thing is a reason for all that bad things.
I'm not really scared of RF, especially in >GHz bands because that frequencies have too low depth of penetration due to skin effect. I more prone to bet on medications, shitty food, psychological stress from all that money-making rush, even worsening relations between people as a reason for problems, than on some tech. But my point also have no any real proofs, just like yours. Jus some assumptions and some basic knowledge counterarguments from laws of physics to simple logic.
And that fearmongering narratives like all that 5G stuff does not help to find any truth in all that mess.
Taking that article - they mention SAR (Specific Absorption Rate) of 1.15 W/kg - that means each kilogram of organism should completely absorb 1.15W of RF energy every second. Even just termal effect of such level of power absorption will give unpredictable results, not necessary connected with RF itself, but with higher temperature. It is insane level you will not meet anywhere in regular life, unless you push your head to microwave oven or will sleep in radar dish. Your WiFi access point should work at 60Watts and all that power should be absorbed by your body, so you have to sit near that thing in some box with steel walls. Things gets more insane if you go for open air conditions. RF power fall proportionally to the square of distance. So, to reach that levels there should be insanely powerful base stations with kilowatts of power on antennas. Speaking of smartphone itself, you don't have such exposure too. And human body slightly larger than mouse - RF that could reach center of rat's brain will barely penetrate your skin and scull.
Funny, but RF energy often used as a treatment for some diseases as a way to warm up human flesh around ill lungs or other organs. Frequency, of course is lower than 5GHz band to provide better penetration. (27-150MHz at up to 150W for half an our or more) IDK about US, but in USSR/Russia so named UHF-therapy (Short wave therapy) is widely used to cure inflamations of different kind, mostly in breathing system and joints. I was often cured from colds by that devices in my childhood, as millions of Soviet children and adults without any side effects and I liked that UHF treatments much more than pills or shots - just a nice warm feeling right inside your body in the treated area, like somebody somehow put a pleasant warm heater right in troubling place inside.
So, you see, unnatural RF radiation didn't kill me even at very high levels, none of those who are so obsessed today with RF radiation ever could be exposed to. And I got nothing except positive outcomes in form of fast cured illness from that.
So, I have enough reasons to be sceptical and cautious with all that RF radiation hype articles.
In any case it will be more than reasonable to question everything, even things that seems to be against narratives.
Wow, thank you for the info. It is always so interesting to see how different cultures deal with things. Latin American and Slavic countries seem much more holistic.
I will be the first to admit that I have not researched the 5G rabbit hole because I only have so much time.
So, if you are saying 5G is just a radio frequency, that is really interesting.
The western beauty industry is using laser and different light spectrums a lot more these days.
For example, I use infrared light and red light after serums and treatments, as it helps with healing, rejuvenation, collagen production, hair growth, etc. The infrared does also help with sore muscles and joints (especially for those with arthritis or inflammation). It does a much better job at helping the joints than any pills. (Blue light kills bacteria on the skin, and UV light sterilizes and can even kill fungus iirc). I am also experimenting with plasma.
I did not know that a frequency could help cure illnesses!!
Which frequency did you guys use and against which illnesses? Bacteria? So like for the common cold or pneumonia?
How did you get these devices? I had to hunt and go on a journey to find out about these tools, and then to get the devices themselves. (Although, now it is much more widely available).
How do you treat colds with RF? Do you point it at the head? Lungs? Or use a full body device? It is common knowledge in Russia?
This is really useful information.
The other thing I will note, though, that may support u/Zap_Powerz 's theory is that once you get to a high enough heat/ radiofrequency, you can burst fat cells. That is one issue people are conscious of when they have face treatments done, as they don't want to lose fat in the wrong locations.
It doesn't hurt and you would not even known it had happened! Same with ultrasound tech, it can destroy the fat cells, which celebs use to sculpt their bodies.
Up to a certain range of RF, it is awesome and collagen producing. Over a certain point it can be dangerous.
I feel like a plant now - realizing that the human body is so attuned to RF, IR, red light, blue light, UV light. And the third eye, as well. It's fun!
Oh, and i think x-rays can be useful, too. I was super ill one time, then got x-rays done. And the next day I was so much better. I think the x-rays zapped the bugs.
Which frequency did you guys use and against which illnesses? Bacteria? So like for the common cold or pneumonia?
It is 27-150MHz frequency and it used to deliver heat into inflamation area. That have nothing to do with bacteria or anything else, just internal heating of troubled organs inside body. Just like you use hot potions, heating pads or sauna to get rid from cold, but slightly more advanced and targeted. Heating and electric currents in inflamation area change permeability of blood vessels and membranes and this intensifies inflow and activity of immune bodies into area of inflammation.
Mostly breathing system and jonts treated with UHF-therapy.
There are dozen of devices was developed for hospitals and clinics, currently four of them mostly in use - УВЧ(UHF)-30, УВЧ-66, УВЧ-70 and УВЧ-80. They are differ in power and frequency, but all used for same propose.
How do you treat colds with RF?
Put two plates over troubled area and feed them with RF as antenna poles. You could even find a schematics of that devices, say УВЧ-80-4 http://www.medteh.info/_fr/70/6067782.jpg . Plates (E3,E4) or inductor (E6) that you put on treated area are in top-right of schematic, connected to output winding of output transformer (L11,L12,L13) dirven by vacuum tube (YL1,YL2) oscillator. Not a high-tech, really, just powerful RF field generator with variable power output.
Do you point it at the head?
No. You don't cure something heating your brain, usually. But small electrodes could be used on nose to cure the antritis, f.e.
Yes, and widely used. Now may be less than in USSR, because of that WHO terrorist organisation guidances and big farma influence, but still popular and well-known therapy since 1950s.
This is really useful information.
You are welcome.
Up to a certain range of RF, it is awesome and collagen producing. Over a certain point it can be dangerous.
Exactly. That is why real studies necessary on that topic, not some hype articles about "scary" "5G", but thorough research on different frequences and modulations.
WiFi 5GHz band works in range 5.1-5.9GHz, so should have exactly same effect.
So why 5G causes something, but somehow regular WiFi and other things that works in same 5GHz band, like FPV cameras or weather sensors and even IoT stuff is not?
That obsession with "obviously" "scary", "harmful" 5G is insane and do nothing except breaking validity of any serious questions about influence of high-frequency RF radiation we surrounded for a long time regardless of 5G availability.
Fuck, in the terms of interaction with human body that 5G is not differ from all other things that works in that bands nobody cares about.
I'm not so doomy (does such word exists?) on that.
Humans are very adaptable creatures. All that technological pollutions are far lower than human adaptation levels. And we have no any really scientific data on many things we interfere with.
All that conclusions based on some statisitical observations are interesting, but really ungrounded and, as worst thing are uncheckable. Something is changing, but there are too many factors that could be a reason for changes and problems that every speculator could choose any reason he want to make his point of view and it will be even somehow backed with that statistical data. Look, you say that it is RF, but your opponent will say it is climate change or some other shit. And both of you will not able to provide any scientific proof, i.e. reproduceable experiment that prove that it is your thing is a reason for all that bad things.
I'm not really scared of RF, especially in >GHz bands because that frequencies have too low depth of penetration due to skin effect. I more prone to bet on medications, shitty food, psychological stress from all that money-making rush, even worsening relations between people as a reason for problems, than on some tech. But my point also have no any real proofs, just like yours. Jus some assumptions and some basic knowledge counterarguments from laws of physics to simple logic.
And that fearmongering narratives like all that 5G stuff does not help to find any truth in all that mess.
Taking that article - they mention SAR (Specific Absorption Rate) of 1.15 W/kg - that means each kilogram of organism should completely absorb 1.15W of RF energy every second. Even just termal effect of such level of power absorption will give unpredictable results, not necessary connected with RF itself, but with higher temperature. It is insane level you will not meet anywhere in regular life, unless you push your head to microwave oven or will sleep in radar dish. Your WiFi access point should work at 60Watts and all that power should be absorbed by your body, so you have to sit near that thing in some box with steel walls. Things gets more insane if you go for open air conditions. RF power fall proportionally to the square of distance. So, to reach that levels there should be insanely powerful base stations with kilowatts of power on antennas. Speaking of smartphone itself, you don't have such exposure too. And human body slightly larger than mouse - RF that could reach center of rat's brain will barely penetrate your skin and scull.
Funny, but RF energy often used as a treatment for some diseases as a way to warm up human flesh around ill lungs or other organs. Frequency, of course is lower than 5GHz band to provide better penetration. (27-150MHz at up to 150W for half an our or more) IDK about US, but in USSR/Russia so named UHF-therapy (Short wave therapy) is widely used to cure inflamations of different kind, mostly in breathing system and joints. I was often cured from colds by that devices in my childhood, as millions of Soviet children and adults without any side effects and I liked that UHF treatments much more than pills or shots - just a nice warm feeling right inside your body in the treated area, like somebody somehow put a pleasant warm heater right in troubling place inside.
So, you see, unnatural RF radiation didn't kill me even at very high levels, none of those who are so obsessed today with RF radiation ever could be exposed to. And I got nothing except positive outcomes in form of fast cured illness from that.
So, I have enough reasons to be sceptical and cautious with all that RF radiation hype articles.
In any case it will be more than reasonable to question everything, even things that seems to be against narratives.
Wow, thank you for the info. It is always so interesting to see how different cultures deal with things. Latin American and Slavic countries seem much more holistic.
I will be the first to admit that I have not researched the 5G rabbit hole because I only have so much time.
So, if you are saying 5G is just a radio frequency, that is really interesting.
The western beauty industry is using laser and different light spectrums a lot more these days.
For example, I use infrared light and red light after serums and treatments, as it helps with healing, rejuvenation, collagen production, hair growth, etc. The infrared does also help with sore muscles and joints (especially for those with arthritis or inflammation). It does a much better job at helping the joints than any pills. (Blue light kills bacteria on the skin, and UV light sterilizes and can even kill fungus iirc). I am also experimenting with plasma.
I did not know that a frequency could help cure illnesses!! Which frequency did you guys use and against which illnesses? Bacteria? So like for the common cold or pneumonia?
How did you get these devices? I had to hunt and go on a journey to find out about these tools, and then to get the devices themselves. (Although, now it is much more widely available).
How do you treat colds with RF? Do you point it at the head? Lungs? Or use a full body device? It is common knowledge in Russia? This is really useful information.
The other thing I will note, though, that may support u/Zap_Powerz 's theory is that once you get to a high enough heat/ radiofrequency, you can burst fat cells. That is one issue people are conscious of when they have face treatments done, as they don't want to lose fat in the wrong locations.
It doesn't hurt and you would not even known it had happened! Same with ultrasound tech, it can destroy the fat cells, which celebs use to sculpt their bodies.
Up to a certain range of RF, it is awesome and collagen producing. Over a certain point it can be dangerous.
I feel like a plant now - realizing that the human body is so attuned to RF, IR, red light, blue light, UV light. And the third eye, as well. It's fun!
Oh, and i think x-rays can be useful, too. I was super ill one time, then got x-rays done. And the next day I was so much better. I think the x-rays zapped the bugs.
Like Hulda's parasite zappers lol.
It is 27-150MHz frequency and it used to deliver heat into inflamation area. That have nothing to do with bacteria or anything else, just internal heating of troubled organs inside body. Just like you use hot potions, heating pads or sauna to get rid from cold, but slightly more advanced and targeted. Heating and electric currents in inflamation area change permeability of blood vessels and membranes and this intensifies inflow and activity of immune bodies into area of inflammation.
Mostly breathing system and jonts treated with UHF-therapy.
There are dozen of devices was developed for hospitals and clinics, currently four of them mostly in use - УВЧ(UHF)-30, УВЧ-66, УВЧ-70 and УВЧ-80. They are differ in power and frequency, but all used for same propose.
Put two plates over troubled area and feed them with RF as antenna poles. You could even find a schematics of that devices, say УВЧ-80-4 http://www.medteh.info/_fr/70/6067782.jpg . Plates (E3,E4) or inductor (E6) that you put on treated area are in top-right of schematic, connected to output winding of output transformer (L11,L12,L13) dirven by vacuum tube (YL1,YL2) oscillator. Not a high-tech, really, just powerful RF field generator with variable power output.
No. You don't cure something heating your brain, usually. But small electrodes could be used on nose to cure the antritis, f.e.
Yes. Or infammated knee joint or whatever.
No, it is two plates positioned over target area, something like this - https://static.tildacdn.com/tild6461-3535-4635-b734-393131366263/963_original.jpg or single inductor (like in induction cooker) pad placed over target area.
Yes, and widely used. Now may be less than in USSR, because of that WHO terrorist organisation guidances and big farma influence, but still popular and well-known therapy since 1950s.
You are welcome.
Exactly. That is why real studies necessary on that topic, not some hype articles about "scary" "5G", but thorough research on different frequences and modulations.