"effective managers" who order cheapest possible crap from murky resellers, instead of buying from normal suppliers.
I've worked with companies that had huge problems with Chinese-sourced electronic components. They're often counterfeit and usually have difficult to diagnose problems, like not working at certain temperatures or having been previously subjected to electrostatic discharge.
To mitigate this, they set up a verification process that means they have to pay more for certain vendors even when they can externally verify the source.
Chineese will sell what you want at any price you want. As I understand, they have no any limits about quality and don't mind to sell you crap if you paid crap price. And will never warn you about quality, thinking that customer must know for hmself what he could get for price he pay. If you pay decent price, you will get decent goods, if you pay very low price you get very low quality goods. Looks like there is no bottom in that game.
So, it is relatively easy to do business with chineese. Just don't be greedy, don't try to save another few cents and you will be fine. That works even for aliexpress/banggood/taobao.
What unscrupulous importers do is hire consultants who know a great deal about what things cost over there. Then you set your price so they can make a profit as long as they cut corners on things that would be taken for granted in the country of import (worker safety, environmental regulations, sometimes product safety and whatnot).
Not that simple, I agree, but at least this could be used as a beginning.
As for cutting costs, in worker safety aspect, AFAIK, Chineese now is not that tiny poor people ready to do anything for the rice meal. Their factories are not a Liao basement anymore. They are masters of copying, so they already copied all that western safety trolling and implemented even strictier safety rules. Not everywhere yet, of course, but it is spreading fast.
Product safety is on customer. That's basic rule. If customer don't bother to pay for it, than he wouldn't get it, and they will not judge him or ask additional questions, customer know better what he want. Simple as that.
Environmental thing exists, but they are different that western ones. Nobody care about all that CO2 emissions crap (except if customer very concerned about it, and paid for it), but for spilling some really nasty shit owner and top managers (yes, owners are responsible too) could be heavy fined and even jailed if CCP need to make yet another example of environment care importance.
Of course I have a limited expirience about that things and can't say that all and every Chineese factory follow that tendencies, but I do business directly with Chineese for a relatively long time and that is the changes and tendencies I witnessed by myself and talked about by Chineese themselves. Since Chineese like uniformity and quickly copy what they account (or was told by authorities) as right thing to do, I think it is more or less same all over the China.
I've worked with companies that had huge problems with Chinese-sourced electronic components. They're often counterfeit and usually have difficult to diagnose problems, like not working at certain temperatures or having been previously subjected to electrostatic discharge.
To mitigate this, they set up a verification process that means they have to pay more for certain vendors even when they can externally verify the source.
Chineese will sell what you want at any price you want. As I understand, they have no any limits about quality and don't mind to sell you crap if you paid crap price. And will never warn you about quality, thinking that customer must know for hmself what he could get for price he pay. If you pay decent price, you will get decent goods, if you pay very low price you get very low quality goods. Looks like there is no bottom in that game.
So, it is relatively easy to do business with chineese. Just don't be greedy, don't try to save another few cents and you will be fine. That works even for aliexpress/banggood/taobao.
Fair advice, but not quite so simple.
What unscrupulous importers do is hire consultants who know a great deal about what things cost over there. Then you set your price so they can make a profit as long as they cut corners on things that would be taken for granted in the country of import (worker safety, environmental regulations, sometimes product safety and whatnot).
Not that simple, I agree, but at least this could be used as a beginning.
As for cutting costs, in worker safety aspect, AFAIK, Chineese now is not that tiny poor people ready to do anything for the rice meal. Their factories are not a Liao basement anymore. They are masters of copying, so they already copied all that western safety trolling and implemented even strictier safety rules. Not everywhere yet, of course, but it is spreading fast.
Product safety is on customer. That's basic rule. If customer don't bother to pay for it, than he wouldn't get it, and they will not judge him or ask additional questions, customer know better what he want. Simple as that.
Environmental thing exists, but they are different that western ones. Nobody care about all that CO2 emissions crap (except if customer very concerned about it, and paid for it), but for spilling some really nasty shit owner and top managers (yes, owners are responsible too) could be heavy fined and even jailed if CCP need to make yet another example of environment care importance.
Of course I have a limited expirience about that things and can't say that all and every Chineese factory follow that tendencies, but I do business directly with Chineese for a relatively long time and that is the changes and tendencies I witnessed by myself and talked about by Chineese themselves. Since Chineese like uniformity and quickly copy what they account (or was told by authorities) as right thing to do, I think it is more or less same all over the China.