Open your dishwasher or microwave and take a look.
You could find ARM with flash only in something really "smart", IDK, photoframe or fridge that order products from Amason automatically.
There are a lot of ARM SoCs with OTP memory too. They are cheaper, so widely used in mass production.
PICs is rare thing in home appliances. I found them only in some car ECUs, like windows ECU or central locks. And in relatively old cars only.
Most home appliances have Hitachi, Toshiba, Renesas(NEC), China native or some unidentified COBs MCUs.
Especially those cheap brands that are common in Russia and even more in Ukraine. There are not many Miele wasing machines around. (Really don't know what MCU Miele use, may be same masked/OTP as cheap ones)
By the way, best chance to obtain a useable, flasheable MCU, potentially suitable for some military purpose is button mobile phones, photoframes, dash cameras, car radios and advanced RC toys.
If that dumbfucks told their shit about above stuff as a source for chips for Russian military, than, at least, it would heave been plausible. But in no case it could be dishwashers/microwaves.
That is how blatant propaganda could be easily caught and that is why knowledge is very important nowdays.
Maybe they want the power electronics for something like small motor / compressor controls
That is produced in Russia, Belarus and China without any problems. It is large scale devices, so no any shortage.
Russia don't produce high capacity DRAM, Flash memory, highly integrated processors that need low nanometer process and high resolution CMOS cameras. But all that things produced in China.
Processors of level used in home appliances produced in many varieties and, more important, in military grade versions (ceramic case with gold plated pins and thorough testing including radiation) you never find in home appliances.
That would make sense to steal from appliances.
In home appliances mostly triacs used to drive motors/coils. You rarely will find good power MOSFETs inside. Triacs much cheaper. Triacs are for AC, so no use for DC military things.
Again, to scrap powerful MOSFETs you need PC power supplies (at least there will be 2 high voltage low current and 1-2 low voltage high current), not diswashers and microwaves.
Most microwaves don't have any power electronics at all, just a single relay to turn on magnetron and motor of rotating plate.
Again, that thing about dishwashers and microwaves for chips is a pure and blatant lie.
If you visit a link to Bloomberg, that is mentioned as a source of info about chips from washing machines, you will find only
A major industrial conglomerate has resorted to buying washing machines and tearing out the semiconductors inside for use in its own chip modules, according to the CEO of a company central to the chipmaking supply chain.
So, again nothing about salvaging chips from washing machines. Yes, you could scrap discrete parts for making modules, but in any case it is weird to buy whole washing machine for that. There are tons of old computers for that, with much more parts per mass. People change computers much more often, than washing machines, so there are even no need to buy out them, you could get them for free as garbage.
Russians are retards who are dooming their own civilization over occupying some Ukrainian shithole, thats true.
Strange, but that lead to the best thing that happened with our industry for 30 years. There are ressurection of almost every important industry going, from semiconductors manufacturing to plastic synthesis.
If only that IMF/WTO crap will be wiped out of here along with abandoning international laws about patents and all that stuff that put the brakes on development...
Looks like that only war with Ukraine forced West to seize abroad assets stolen by Russian Federation western ass licking oligarchs and bureaucrats and force them to think about their own country instead of their Westrn villas and yachts.
Interesting, that seizing Western assets of Russian Federation elite was the main point of Navalny opposition, but for some reason, when things turned bad for Navalny, his Western masters quickly betrayed him and don't do anything. But when the active war started the same assets was quickly seized like the West wanted to do something good for Russia for involving in war on Donbass.
Same thing with resources. It is widely popular opinion here, that Russia should not sell its raw resources abroad, that we should use and process them here and sell more advanced products, not raw materials. And magically, West again did what is good thing for Russia - impose that stupid self-harming sanctions on Russian export of raw materials.
Looks like Russian authorities just did what West needed them to do and Russia as a country received a reward from the West. And even annexation of part of LARP Ukraine state is not something that assumed inapropriate by Russians in Russia and Ukraine.
So, all that mess with war is something that was necessary for the West, and to get it, West paid Russia a lot, creating all conditions for ressurection of Russian industry, that thoroughly had been destroyed by Western shills for decades before.
I think it's plausible to identify secondary sources of cheap MCU with eeprom or flash memory from smart appliance that would work in a Russian tank
Hardly you will find anything pin-to-pin compatible around, that could be replaced in the field, really.
May be it is possible to find something for night vision or targeting display system in some industrial equipment, but I can't imagine reballing under the artillery fire.
Tanks electronics replaced by modules, not by resoldering chips, even in service stations. Broken modules sent to manufacturer for proper repair if it is allowed.
(I mean for the type of dumb shit you use cheap like 28-pin type MCUs for in "automotive" type applications.. boring stuff like limit control on a hydraulic actuator... the stuff that does get repaired.. not the high end stuff people picture in their mind..)
You perfectly know, that Russians are retarded, so that modern fashion with doing simple things with MCUs are not yet came in (fortunately ?). In Russian tank limit control for hydraulic actuator will be made without electronics at all. As simple and reliable as possible with minimum parts. Even in newest models.
Open your dishwasher or microwave and take a look.
You could find ARM with flash only in something really "smart", IDK, photoframe or fridge that order products from Amason automatically.
There are a lot of ARM SoCs with OTP memory too. They are cheaper, so widely used in mass production.
PICs is rare thing in home appliances. I found them only in some car ECUs, like windows ECU or central locks. And in relatively old cars only.
Most home appliances have Hitachi, Toshiba, Renesas(NEC), China native or some unidentified COBs MCUs.
Especially those cheap brands that are common in Russia and even more in Ukraine. There are not many Miele wasing machines around. (Really don't know what MCU Miele use, may be same masked/OTP as cheap ones)
By the way, best chance to obtain a useable, flasheable MCU, potentially suitable for some military purpose is button mobile phones, photoframes, dash cameras, car radios and advanced RC toys.
If that dumbfucks told their shit about above stuff as a source for chips for Russian military, than, at least, it would heave been plausible. But in no case it could be dishwashers/microwaves.
That is how blatant propaganda could be easily caught and that is why knowledge is very important nowdays.
That is produced in Russia, Belarus and China without any problems. It is large scale devices, so no any shortage.
Russia don't produce high capacity DRAM, Flash memory, highly integrated processors that need low nanometer process and high resolution CMOS cameras. But all that things produced in China.
Processors of level used in home appliances produced in many varieties and, more important, in military grade versions (ceramic case with gold plated pins and thorough testing including radiation) you never find in home appliances.
In home appliances mostly triacs used to drive motors/coils. You rarely will find good power MOSFETs inside. Triacs much cheaper. Triacs are for AC, so no use for DC military things.
Again, to scrap powerful MOSFETs you need PC power supplies (at least there will be 2 high voltage low current and 1-2 low voltage high current), not diswashers and microwaves.
Most microwaves don't have any power electronics at all, just a single relay to turn on magnetron and motor of rotating plate.
Again, that thing about dishwashers and microwaves for chips is a pure and blatant lie.
If you visit a link to Bloomberg, that is mentioned as a source of info about chips from washing machines, you will find only
So, again nothing about salvaging chips from washing machines. Yes, you could scrap discrete parts for making modules, but in any case it is weird to buy whole washing machine for that. There are tons of old computers for that, with much more parts per mass. People change computers much more often, than washing machines, so there are even no need to buy out them, you could get them for free as garbage.
Strange, but that lead to the best thing that happened with our industry for 30 years. There are ressurection of almost every important industry going, from semiconductors manufacturing to plastic synthesis.
If only that IMF/WTO crap will be wiped out of here along with abandoning international laws about patents and all that stuff that put the brakes on development...
Looks like that only war with Ukraine forced West to seize abroad assets stolen by Russian Federation western ass licking oligarchs and bureaucrats and force them to think about their own country instead of their Westrn villas and yachts.
Interesting, that seizing Western assets of Russian Federation elite was the main point of Navalny opposition, but for some reason, when things turned bad for Navalny, his Western masters quickly betrayed him and don't do anything. But when the active war started the same assets was quickly seized like the West wanted to do something good for Russia for involving in war on Donbass.
Same thing with resources. It is widely popular opinion here, that Russia should not sell its raw resources abroad, that we should use and process them here and sell more advanced products, not raw materials. And magically, West again did what is good thing for Russia - impose that stupid self-harming sanctions on Russian export of raw materials.
Looks like Russian authorities just did what West needed them to do and Russia as a country received a reward from the West. And even annexation of part of LARP Ukraine state is not something that assumed inapropriate by Russians in Russia and Ukraine.
So, all that mess with war is something that was necessary for the West, and to get it, West paid Russia a lot, creating all conditions for ressurection of Russian industry, that thoroughly had been destroyed by Western shills for decades before.
Hardly you will find anything pin-to-pin compatible around, that could be replaced in the field, really.
May be it is possible to find something for night vision or targeting display system in some industrial equipment, but I can't imagine reballing under the artillery fire.
Tanks electronics replaced by modules, not by resoldering chips, even in service stations. Broken modules sent to manufacturer for proper repair if it is allowed.
You perfectly know, that Russians are retarded, so that modern fashion with doing simple things with MCUs are not yet came in (fortunately ?). In Russian tank limit control for hydraulic actuator will be made without electronics at all. As simple and reliable as possible with minimum parts. Even in newest models.