A likely explanation to the flatties
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In this equation, we have more unknowns than knowns the result is, an estimate.
Does this not in itself prove to you that this is subjective analysis based on imaginary inputs and ideas? There is no way to produce this answer definitively, this is the exact reason why the current state of astrophysics is such a mess, we have all these people asserting they can calculate a thing and then with conviction make these claims to people to convey their own personal 'belief' regarding the information they have collected. This is not science, this is more like alchemy.
So, do people choose to 'believe' in science? absolutely, especially in astrophysics. But more importantly, it is this belief that drives one to form understandings and if you are not able to deduce your understanding from facts or evidence, then it remains a belief.
If you cannot find evidential proof then the odds are you are just dealing with guesswork, which is why any answer you find regarding this question is associated as such, just estimations based on what we think we know.
Ok, so given the forces at play, you are assuming that only velocity is modified, but you are ignoring all the other various forces involved in a gravity orbit. I have a pretty firm grip on a variety of mathematics. So I will not proclaim to understand nor be able to measure them all. Many have produced much guesswork on the topic and it is better than assuming it is not in orbit imo. There are still mysteries here to be truly unraveled, we simply insert a constant or otherwise generated value to continue and present you with what we think we know.
When you see the moon, orbiting the earth or moving across the firmament rest assured there are forces at play you are not in full understanding of. There is no need to force it to fill some claim made in the past.
I do not feel there is a human on earth who has what it takes to provide full explanation on the cosmos, it is very much a work in progress. We are on the verge of dispelling the notion that the sun is a ball of gas, do you have any idea what this will do to astrophysics as we know it?
I am fine if you want to accept a flat earth, I want to know why. So far we have these points to argue on, but I feel we are done on these points as none of them are anything other than subjective analysis and nothing like measuring the tensile strength of steel.
Scientific method is rooted in belief, it starts with a desire to understand a given entity. This is belief in both the entity and the ability to unravel an understanding. As we move through the process of scientific analysis we produce measurable quantities. This becomes the understanding and collection of facts as we know it. While also realizing what we think we know may be wrong at any given moment we are ready to adapt and conform to the new information.
So, do not try to discount beliefs as usable constructs that help us innovate ideas and get to new plateaus of thinking.
We can start with the hypothesis that we are just matter in a petri dish in some science experiment performed by a being so advanced we cannot comprehend.
Why not? can you disprove that? of course not. Can you prove it? hah, good luck.
Yes, because the three points I have basically shown little interest in as I find them subjective claims of understanding, I did submit this right away. This is a function of missing data points, no fault of mine nor yours. I am just stating that we need more to dig in, because any subjective analysis is prone to being incorrect and there is no need to be incorrect. We just let it go and wait for it to evolve.
I am interested in observations but they are theoretical understandings as they are perceived by the eye of the beholder. Until we can convert that to a broader understanding it is pie in the sky.
I have heard a few theories on rapid canyon formation and I do not really reject them nor accept them, they are interesting ideas and as more evidence continues to be collected maybe one day we can definitively prove one way or the other.
Same as old structures and how many of them were built, lot's of ideas many not concrete but some apparently so. Fun stuff. By themselves they do not prove aliens were ever here :)