(I believe) Everything is real which makes me dumb :(
The intelligent question and doubt, the stupid believe.
Nuclear reactions are real (something more like a thermite reaction), but nuclear weapons are fear porn which can only be seen on television. It is NOT coincidence that nukes coincide with mass television distribution.
You think just because you question things that everyone knows is true, that it makes you better than them
Not exactly. I recognize that it makes me a better skeptic, and thus student, than they are - but no, it doesn’t make me categorically “better” than them.
Recognizing the half life on facts does make me more knowledgeable. Many things “everyone knows is true” are false, and this is historically always the case. Denying this fact is proud, ignorant, and stupid.
You flatheads just say things and think people should take your word for it
There are no flatheads, that’s a heavily advertised (i.e. funded) pyop.
I am a flat earth researcher, and advocate the absolute opposite perspective. You should NEVER take my word, nor anyone else’s, and need to thoroughly validate all claims you encounter (of which facts are merely one type) before you accept them. Failure to do this causes one to believe all manner of stupid nonsense.
Just being insulting and arrogant is not enough
Practice what you preach, friend :). This is good advice, and very true. You might try taking it to heart and implementing it yourself...
One of us is insulting and condescending... Can you tell which one it is?
Merely having and sharing perspectives that you disagree with is not insulting nor condescending. Don’t be silly!
Regardless what you think of Carl Sagan
I’m a fan, and i agree wholeheartedly.
The burden of proof is on you
I disagree (outside of the silly game of debate, in which it is a rule). The burden is on all of us, and proof is not something that anyone can give another (it’s far too subjective). Proof must and can only be obtained (and determined/defined) by each of us, for ourselves. However, we can work together to help in that process and i think we all best help one another as much as possible. Many hands make light work.
Evidence abounds, and i am happy to share it with you. Wether it can, would, or should serve as proof to you is entirely subjective, and ought to be!
In any case, the claim that the earth is spherical/oblate spheroid is a seriously extraordinary one, which does - as sagan rightly points out - require commensurately extraordinary evidence to support it. It is largely through the rigorous and rationally critical evaluation of such evidences that i have concluded that the claim is not supported nor scientifically consistent.
Similarly with the claim that nuclear weapons exist and are real, i find that extraordinary evidence conspicuously absent. Of course, there is more evidence than that distinct lack of evidence to support my conclusion - however, by “sagan’s maxim” it isn’t strictly necessary.
You have offered nothing so far, let's see what you've got
As i said, the best way to get a specific answer is to ask as specific a question as possible! As much as i would like to “brain dump” everything about the subject to you - we have to use imprecise and tedious words instead. The footage of supposed “nuclear weapons” is laughably fake, and as that is the primary evidence of their reality - we are already not off to a good start verifying the claim that they are real.
It is well known that japan had been firebombed to oblivion and was already completely willing for surrender. The infrastructure of neither hiroshima nor nagasaki were “obliterated” even on a small “ground zero” scale and the buildings there remained largely undamaged by the propaganda of “the ultimate weapon” unleashed on them.
The sunken ships supposedly tested upon at bikini atol are equally in tact and not radioactive - and those were supposedly tested against with hydrogen bombs orders of magnitude more powerful than the only ones ever used in warfare.
The fact is you have nothing but unwavering faith that nuclear weapons exist, as we are supposed to as a result of conditioning by rote under the guise of education from childhood. The burden to thoroughly verify things before we accept them as true, always falls on the student (us).
It’s actually the inverse.
(I believe) Everything is real which makes me dumb :(
The intelligent question and doubt, the stupid believe.
Nuclear reactions are real (something more like a thermite reaction), but nuclear weapons are fear porn which can only be seen on television. It is NOT coincidence that nukes coincide with mass television distribution.
A “noble lie” to “end war” (resistance) :(
Not exactly. I recognize that it makes me a better skeptic, and thus student, than they are - but no, it doesn’t make me categorically “better” than them.
Recognizing the half life on facts does make me more knowledgeable. Many things “everyone knows is true” are false, and this is historically always the case. Denying this fact is proud, ignorant, and stupid.
There are no flatheads, that’s a heavily advertised (i.e. funded) pyop.
I am a flat earth researcher, and advocate the absolute opposite perspective. You should NEVER take my word, nor anyone else’s, and need to thoroughly validate all claims you encounter (of which facts are merely one type) before you accept them. Failure to do this causes one to believe all manner of stupid nonsense.
Practice what you preach, friend :). This is good advice, and very true. You might try taking it to heart and implementing it yourself...
One of us is insulting and condescending... Can you tell which one it is?
Merely having and sharing perspectives that you disagree with is not insulting nor condescending. Don’t be silly!
I’m a fan, and i agree wholeheartedly.
I disagree (outside of the silly game of debate, in which it is a rule). The burden is on all of us, and proof is not something that anyone can give another (it’s far too subjective). Proof must and can only be obtained (and determined/defined) by each of us, for ourselves. However, we can work together to help in that process and i think we all best help one another as much as possible. Many hands make light work.
Evidence abounds, and i am happy to share it with you. Wether it can, would, or should serve as proof to you is entirely subjective, and ought to be!
In any case, the claim that the earth is spherical/oblate spheroid is a seriously extraordinary one, which does - as sagan rightly points out - require commensurately extraordinary evidence to support it. It is largely through the rigorous and rationally critical evaluation of such evidences that i have concluded that the claim is not supported nor scientifically consistent.
Similarly with the claim that nuclear weapons exist and are real, i find that extraordinary evidence conspicuously absent. Of course, there is more evidence than that distinct lack of evidence to support my conclusion - however, by “sagan’s maxim” it isn’t strictly necessary.
As i said, the best way to get a specific answer is to ask as specific a question as possible! As much as i would like to “brain dump” everything about the subject to you - we have to use imprecise and tedious words instead. The footage of supposed “nuclear weapons” is laughably fake, and as that is the primary evidence of their reality - we are already not off to a good start verifying the claim that they are real.
It is well known that japan had been firebombed to oblivion and was already completely willing for surrender. The infrastructure of neither hiroshima nor nagasaki were “obliterated” even on a small “ground zero” scale and the buildings there remained largely undamaged by the propaganda of “the ultimate weapon” unleashed on them.
The sunken ships supposedly tested upon at bikini atol are equally in tact and not radioactive - and those were supposedly tested against with hydrogen bombs orders of magnitude more powerful than the only ones ever used in warfare.
The fact is you have nothing but unwavering faith that nuclear weapons exist, as we are supposed to as a result of conditioning by rote under the guise of education from childhood. The burden to thoroughly verify things before we accept them as true, always falls on the student (us).