Win / Conspiracies
Conspiracies
Communities Topics Log In Sign Up
Sign In
Hot
All Posts
Settings
All
Profile
Saved
Upvoted
Hidden
Messages

Your Communities

General
AskWin
Funny
Technology
Animals
Sports
Gaming
DIY
Health
Positive
Privacy
News
Changelogs

More Communities

frenworld
OhTwitter
MillionDollarExtreme
NoNewNormal
Ladies
Conspiracies
GreatAwakening
IP2Always
GameDev
ParallelSociety
Privacy Policy
Terms of Service
Content Policy
DEFAULT COMMUNITIES • All General AskWin Funny Technology Animals Sports Gaming DIY Health Positive Privacy
Conspiracies Conspiracy Theories & Facts
hot new rising top

Sign In or Create an Account

3
If you doubt Tesla's engineering then you need to watch this (www.youtube.com)
posted 3 years ago by sep11insidejob 3 years ago by sep11insidejob +6 / -3
56 comments share
56 comments share save hide report block hide replies
You're viewing a single comment thread. View all comments, or full comment thread.
Comments (56)
sorted by:
▲ 3 ▼
– DZP1 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0

What impresses me is the Tesla motor parts can turn at 18000 rpm and not explode. A Dremel tool spins its head at ultrasonic frequency max (20K) but it is small and light. For the Tesla motor to spin at that speed is strong parts engineering, because 1) it doesn't explode 2) wear at that speed is high normally. I have to wonder how they lube it, unless they use magnetic non-contact bearings.

Another impressive thing is the robotic manufacturing that Musk set up - it is very efficient. Others use robots but he has polished it all.

permalink save report block reply
▲ 2 ▼
– sep11insidejob [S] 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

When Sandy Munro first took apart the model 3 engine, he noticed that the magnets consisted of smaller magnets glued together. It took him months to figure out the reason behind this: Tesla found a way to increase performance of cheaper magnets to match better, more expensive ones.

This one change saved Tesla a ton of money. Ford, on the other hand buys their motors from an electric engine company, thus eating away at their profits.

This sort of thinking is what has allowed tesla to achieve a 30% + profit margins per car (and going up every year).

permalink parent save report block reply
▲ 0 ▼
– MindlessRationality 0 points 3 years ago +2 / -2

Cheap materials....lower grade....gotcha.

permalink parent save report block reply
▲ 0 ▼
– sep11insidejob [S] 0 points 3 years ago +2 / -2

The Model3 Tesla motors are rated for a million miles. Saving money means more profits.

permalink parent save report block reply
▲ 1 ▼
– MindlessRationality 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

iPhones are cheap to make.....still cost a fortune to buy.....it's called greed....and debasing the value....

permalink parent save report block reply
... continue reading thread?
▲ 1 ▼
– MindlessRationality 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

But their batteries blow up after 50k.... It's like saying the thread is steal....and then making tissue paper clothing with it....the thread is lifetime guaranteed ;)

permalink parent save report block reply
... continue reading thread?
▲ 0 ▼
– CrazyRussian 0 points 3 years ago +2 / -2

can turn at 18000 rpm and not explode

Average cheap angle grinder can turn at 12000 rpm and not explode. Turbochargers in car engines rotates at 100000-200000 rpm and don't explode too. Nothing exceptional in 18000 rpm for electric motors really.

Lubrication is not a problem too, look how turbochargers lubricated, f.e. And at 18000 RPM you could just use ball bearings.

High RPM is mostly a question of rotor balance. Today, with modern sensors you could balance any rotating part pretty well.

permalink parent save report block reply
▲ 2 ▼
– DZP1 2 points 3 years ago +3 / -1

Because the radial force is proportional to the square of the velocity, there is giant difference between the force on materials at 12K and 18K spin speed. Any casting or machined metal in the Tesla would have to be flawless internally.

As for turbochargers, gas vehicles have oil pumps to supply lubricant to everything needing it, an electric car doesn't. At 18K, ball bearings would need forced lubrication, as the centrifugal force would strip them of lube very soon. At Garrett Airesearch we had to run a high speed rotor in a vacuum with magnetic bearings because a metal one could not last at these high speeds. That is why I'm impressed with the Tesla motor design.

permalink parent save report block reply
▲ 2 ▼
– sep11insidejob [S] 2 points 3 years ago +3 / -1

Model S Plaid motor: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ci4qiHJvMEw

permalink parent save report block reply
▲ 1 ▼
– CrazyRussian 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

Any casting or machined metal in the Tesla would have to be flawless internally.

Only rotor. And that is not that hard.

At 18K, ball bearings would need forced lubrication, as the centrifugal force would strip them of lube very soon

Or you should use sealed ball bearings. Also, centrifugal force for bearing much less that for the rotor, since diameter of rotating parts is much smaller. Vaccum cleaner turbines runs at 20-30K RPM, and ball bearings perfecly OK without forced lubrication for many years. SKF gives limiting speed for randomly taken W628/8-2Z bearing at 45K RPM f.e.

permalink parent save report block reply
▲ 2 ▼
– DZP1 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

I had the wrong model. I was envisioning the rotor running in a planetary outer bearing race but with the hub connected to the wheel. But that's wrong because it couldn't be direct drive, the wheel does not turn at 18K rpm of course. I'm going to have to go research the per-wheel drive train.

permalink parent save report block reply
... continue reading thread?

GIFs

Conspiracies Wiki & Links

Conspiracies Book List

External Digital Book Libraries

Mod Logs

Honor Roll

Conspiracies.win: This is a forum for free thinking and for discussing issues which have captured your imagination. Please respect other views and opinions, and keep an open mind. Our goal is to create a fairer and more transparent world for a better future.

Community Rules: <click this link for a detailed explanation of the rules

Rule 1: Be respectful. Attack the argument, not the person.

Rule 2: Don't abuse the report function.

Rule 3: No excessive, unnecessary and/or bullying "meta" posts.

To prevent SPAM, posts from accounts younger than 4 days old, and/or with <50 points, wont appear in the feed until approved by a mod.

Disclaimer: Submissions/comments of exceptionally low quality, trolling, stalking, spam, and those submissions/comments determined to be intentionally misleading, calls to violence and/or abuse of other users here, may all be removed at moderator's discretion.

Moderators

  • Doggos
  • axolotl_peyotl
  • trinadin
  • PutinLovesCats
  • clemaneuverers
  • C
Message the Moderators

Terms of Service | Privacy Policy

2025.03.01 - ptjlq (status)

Copyright © 2024.

Terms of Service | Privacy Policy