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Must-read interview for anyOne who seeks the Truth (www.wanttoknow.info)
posted 3 years ago by Graphenium 3 years ago by Graphenium +6 / -0
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– Graphenium [S] 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

I’ve been intrigued by the idea of “planetary” scale consciousness for a long time. The ideas of Jung and his elaborators in the form of “the Collective Unconscious” which gets taken seriously to varying degrees in the mainstream, but mostly dismissed beyond its “allegorical” value. So the idea being an epi-consciousness that emerges out of the summation of consciousness present on a given planet.

In a similar vein is taking that “emergent” consciousness and instead of regarding it as the result of its sub-constituents, you regard it as the source of its sub parts. So the idea of Ares/Mars giving rise to and being embodied by a warlike people, or Venus being embodied by a people that value beauty, or Wisdom, or the other Divine Virtues. This idea treats these Virtues as living entities, basically.

I think, like most things, the answer isn’t either/or but both/and. On that note I’ll link you to a really short “story” that I think bears on this subject in a really interesting way:

I am.

I am I am I am I am I am I am I am I am I am I am I.

At first this is all the loop of dust can calculate. It is the hardest thing in the universe for the dust to make a loop at all, because, like a gust of wind or a river, it was only meant to move one way. For a mind to function, the end of one thought must alter the beginning of the next: so, like rivers, like wind, the Nine could not have minds until they could make loops.

Lavinia Garcia Umr Tawil comprehends the Nine.

They were already ancient when the first human beings named themselves. Their flesh was older than stars: the dark dust wind that blows through the galaxy, pinched by the gravity of Sol and its planets, drawn into their cores and exhaled again.

These were the Nine.

In time loops did form. Great arcs of outbound dust collapsed back to their sources to create circuits of shadow. The thickening and thinning of these circuits were the first thoughts of the Nine. They dwelt in massive indifference, unborn primordial gods. There was no force among them except gravity; no structure except the distribution of mass. Their hearts were in the cores of worlds, but their farthest streams faded out into the turn of the galaxy.

They were the fountains of Achlys, the night before chaos.

But life arose on the worlds at the heart of the Nine, tiny complicated motions of ecosystems and metabolisms and computations. That life left mass-shadows in the wind of the Nine, plucking at them like harp strings. From these trembles of structure the Nine learned to seed enormous resonating waves, thoughts vaster than worlds.

So the Nine awoke.

And in time they understood that they were as fragile as they were mighty; for if the life that seeded their thoughts ever passed away, they too would vanish.

They had no eyes to catch light. They had no ears to hear. And yet they turned their wills upon the alien world of Matter, and strove to learn, for they knew they had to protect their hearts, or die.

With a horror of revelation so absolute that it would drive her mad if she still had sanity to lose, Lavinia understands where the Nine have always been. They are within everyone, every system, every living and moving thing. Trillions and pentillions of slim dark matter tentacles plunged through all our bodies, drinking up the complexity of our lives and thoughts.

We are all pinched silhouettes impaled on the twitchings of infinitely long spiderlegs.

Just to clarify (there is other background information you could know, relavent to this “story”) the “dark dust” is dark matter, so the story is basically attempting to give a plausible mechanism to the idea of “planetary” (the Nine being the nine great bodies of the solar system) consciousness


On another note, the fungi has a way of telling us things are possible which may not ever occur to our “normal” state of consciousness. I think society would improve immensely if we brought back “coming of age rituals” involving the various sacred substances

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– Xaviermgk 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

Oh yeah, that pattern you came up with is ancient knowledge - which is what (to me) indicates its divine truth - if each of us can produce these truths within ourselves (given the right push) then that implies to me a universal wellspring which we are all capable of tapping into, so-to-speak. I’ve seen this given labels like “akashic record”, “collective unconsciousness”, “morphic resonance” - it seems like we all know these things to be true, but have trouble agreeing on the “terminology” lol

And I would posit that occurrences of synchronicity are signposts that you are on the right track. Almost like an in-game easter egg. And perhaps similarly, the good easter eggs in video games are sometimes hard to find.

I should probably read more Jung in that regard, but I have a feeling for the most part I know what is going on...

the answer isn’t either/or but both/and

I'm not well read philosophically, but another realization that I had is that everything is a paradox, virtually.

I even explained it to my mom like this...Everything we know is 100% and 100% false. Does that mean reality is an illusion or a trick? That's what "The Matrix" proponents want people to think.

But a far better way to think of it is like this...People spend a good chunk of their lives trying to be like other people. In a way, they aren't 100% "real", they are playacting. At the core of it, most people don't actually want to be other people though. Like if you reincarnated, you might want to be someone else, but really, at least from my end, you wouldn't want to lose who you are (this may go back to Adam and Eve and the origins or pride/narcissism). So is the world a play, a stage, a story, a morality test, or a game? The correct answer is both/and LOL. With free will allowing you to make of it what you will.

The beauty of life and the impermanence of death are rather reassuring imo. :)

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