This could be a real possibility. Look into the theory that Presidential and Vice Presidential candidates Reagan and Bush made a deal with Iran to continue holding hostages to sour the public on reelecting Carter. I am not sure what the payoff for Iran was, probably some financial gain or arms deal.
Then, right after Reagan was sworn in, the hostages were released. Numbers fans will note that they were held 444 days.
The only thing that makes me dismiss the theory is that Carter did not need much help in losing the election. Inflation and the gas crunch were most on people's minds. Iran was probably more frightened of a President who would be willing to drop some bombs.
Not a Trump cultist here, and I didn’t downvote. But how could Trump “get them out of jail immediately?” Do you expect him to bake a cake with a saw in it or something?
I am pretty sure Trump could pardon them just incase they were convicted. And the good examples of presidential pardons, are trying to correct the actions of our legal system when it failed to deliver justice; so anyone looking at the situation objectively would see it as correcting an error in our justice system. In any case, I think this would have zero effect on public opinion, the people that hate trump would still hate him, and the people that support him would still support him. I do think trump should have given them (and assange, and snowden) pardons, Im pissed he didn't. But nearly all my contempt is for the psychopaths that created this situation. I think its odd when people laser focus on Trump and refuse to address the source of a problem. Also if Trump supporters were thought of him as a messiah, they wouldn't have booed him at his own rally when he started bragging about how great the vaccines are, they did this at least twice.
If Trump did pardon the Jan 6th patriots (he should have), I don't think that would be any sort of admission of guilt on his part. I think 100% MSM would try to portray it as an admission of guilt, but it flat out would not be. He reiterated so many times that he wants a peaceful demonstration and offered 10k national guard to keep the peace which was refused by Pelosi, these facts are to unavoidable. Plus as we have just seen this week, the public doesn't give a shit about jan 6th anymore. Thats fine to be angry with trump for not having a spine and sticking up for the Jan 6th political prisoners, but you should have 100 times the rage for the psychopaths that organized the whole scam.
One example is Nixon vs Kennedy 1960. Illinois held out until 3am and pulled the same trick.
Nixon had them audited pre-inauguration and the results were "something is not right, we will do a full audit post-inauguration." Then when that audit happened it was "yes, definitely something fishy happening" but the GoP didn't support Nixon by then and it was dropped.
Iron clad case ya made there
This could be a real possibility. Look into the theory that Presidential and Vice Presidential candidates Reagan and Bush made a deal with Iran to continue holding hostages to sour the public on reelecting Carter. I am not sure what the payoff for Iran was, probably some financial gain or arms deal.
Then, right after Reagan was sworn in, the hostages were released. Numbers fans will note that they were held 444 days.
The only thing that makes me dismiss the theory is that Carter did not need much help in losing the election. Inflation and the gas crunch were most on people's minds. Iran was probably more frightened of a President who would be willing to drop some bombs.
That jan6 he was prez. Could of done it then?
Not a Trump cultist here, and I didn’t downvote. But how could Trump “get them out of jail immediately?” Do you expect him to bake a cake with a saw in it or something?
I am pretty sure Trump could pardon them just incase they were convicted. And the good examples of presidential pardons, are trying to correct the actions of our legal system when it failed to deliver justice; so anyone looking at the situation objectively would see it as correcting an error in our justice system. In any case, I think this would have zero effect on public opinion, the people that hate trump would still hate him, and the people that support him would still support him. I do think trump should have given them (and assange, and snowden) pardons, Im pissed he didn't. But nearly all my contempt is for the psychopaths that created this situation. I think its odd when people laser focus on Trump and refuse to address the source of a problem. Also if Trump supporters were thought of him as a messiah, they wouldn't have booed him at his own rally when he started bragging about how great the vaccines are, they did this at least twice.
If Trump did pardon the Jan 6th patriots (he should have), I don't think that would be any sort of admission of guilt on his part. I think 100% MSM would try to portray it as an admission of guilt, but it flat out would not be. He reiterated so many times that he wants a peaceful demonstration and offered 10k national guard to keep the peace which was refused by Pelosi, these facts are to unavoidable. Plus as we have just seen this week, the public doesn't give a shit about jan 6th anymore. Thats fine to be angry with trump for not having a spine and sticking up for the Jan 6th political prisoners, but you should have 100 times the rage for the psychopaths that organized the whole scam.
Except Trump conceded at the very same rally.
Election rigging started way before 2012.
One example is Nixon vs Kennedy 1960. Illinois held out until 3am and pulled the same trick.
Nixon had them audited pre-inauguration and the results were "something is not right, we will do a full audit post-inauguration." Then when that audit happened it was "yes, definitely something fishy happening" but the GoP didn't support Nixon by then and it was dropped.
It's not even something from a Conspiracy forum, here's MSNBC's Andrea Mitchell saying it openly
And CNN's Race for the Whitehouse saying the press corps knowing it just silently letting it go because they didn't like Nixon