I disagree to a certain extent, the Chinese will produce shit if you don't provide verification.
They perfectly know how to bypass your verification. F.e. they will make gears from cheaper, harder, but brittle plastic. Device will perfectly pass postmanufacturing verification, but gears will fall to pieces very quickly. If you want to "save money".
Chineese relatively honest with customer who do the business honestly. But somehow have very good sense of greedy customer. If they feel that greed, they will never be honest with such person.
If you hand them a lot of money, and don't verify, they will keep the money and turn out shit.
Of course there could be swindlers among them. But most will look at you first, and then decide, will they swindle you or not. I have some business with them, and rarely meet open swindlers, and when I do, it was always clearly visible from the beginning. IDK, may be they treat Russians somehow different, but I doubt they see any difference among Europeans, just like we barely could distinguish them.
If you hand them money AND send western quality managers to run the plantation, then you get what you want.
Never did that, but never had problems with quality. However, I never ask them to do something for the limited price or tried to lower price. I asked for quality, and then they named price I usually agreed with. May be that could be the secret, IDK. Also, interesting fact - when I start some project with Chineese, they usually ask, if I want my own brandname and all that "Made in Russia" stuff on the product. I always told them that I do not see any reason to do that, and I don't want to disguise their devices as my own. May be that could be the key of honest business with Chineese.
I think we could ask our asian friend u/Mrexreturns . At least he is closer to China and may be will be able and willing to confirm or disprove our statements and observations.
They perfectly know how to bypass your verification. F.e. they will make gears from cheaper, harder, but brittle plastic. Device will perfectly pass postmanufacturing verification, but gears will fall to pieces very quickly. If you want to "save money".
Chineese relatively honest with customer who do the business honestly. But somehow have very good sense of greedy customer. If they feel that greed, they will never be honest with such person.
Of course there could be swindlers among them. But most will look at you first, and then decide, will they swindle you or not. I have some business with them, and rarely meet open swindlers, and when I do, it was always clearly visible from the beginning. IDK, may be they treat Russians somehow different, but I doubt they see any difference among Europeans, just like we barely could distinguish them.
Never did that, but never had problems with quality. However, I never ask them to do something for the limited price or tried to lower price. I asked for quality, and then they named price I usually agreed with. May be that could be the secret, IDK. Also, interesting fact - when I start some project with Chineese, they usually ask, if I want my own brandname and all that "Made in Russia" stuff on the product. I always told them that I do not see any reason to do that, and I don't want to disguise their devices as my own. May be that could be the key of honest business with Chineese.
I think we could ask our asian friend u/Mrexreturns . At least he is closer to China and may be will be able and willing to confirm or disprove our statements and observations.