I've already schooled you on VAERS, so now you're just lying about it. VAERS itself says that the data there might not be accurate. You don't know if any of those reports have been validated.
Um, no you didn't. Are you the one pretending to be a "scientist and engineer" who didn't know what peer review was? Or was that Crazy Russian? One of you guys.
You don’t like databases of reports from private people, not Big Pharma sponsored, who have evidence of vaccine injuries and death? And those reports are governed under 18 USC 1001, which is punishable by fine and imprisonment for false reporting? That’s not good enough for you? What about all cause mortality increasing? Anecdotal evidence of people dying or having adverse reactions on camera after the jab? World class athletes falling over or dying during games? All the research showing VAIDs, myocarditis, hepatitis, being associated with repeated vaccination?
What, do you need someone to drop dead right on front of you to believe that die off is happening?
Look dude, you've gotta be reasonable about this. First, VAERS is government-controlled with zero accountability mechanisms or independent oversight. Which means that, at best it's sloppy and incomplete and at worst, complete bullshit and propaganda. wHy WouLd dEy liE aBoUt DeAtHs fRom Der vAX? Who knows? Maybe to get us riled up so we fight back and that gives them a reason for Marital Law? I don't know. Just because I don't know why they'd do that, doesn't mean they're not doing it. It's unlikely, sure, but it's possible and we have to take all possibilities into account if we are really after the truth, right?
Second, VAERS is self-reported and not verified by anyone. That alone should be a sign that caution is needed when using it as a reference or as "evidence". Yes, it's more likely that VAERS is under-reporting things, but we have no way of knowing that for sure. For all we know, some 12 year old faggot on 4chan has been submitting reports for the past 18 months...
No one needs evidence to make a report on VAERS. They just make the report and it sits there. That's it. It's fundamentally worthless for anything besides wild speculation (this is likely by design). It's basically the Reddit of the medical-industrial complex.
I don't think the vax is something a person should take and I don't support the government pushing it on people I personally like (the rest can get fucked). However, we need to be rational, honest and level-headed about what we consider to be evidence, least we be subject to being easily fooled like the normies are. Don't just believe something just because it helps your argument. That's not how the scientific method works....
The mantra "Big Pharma" is stale. I know you would like people to trust a website that itself has a disclaimer that it's data is unverified and could be inaccurate, but most people with any sense will know that it isn't a good idea to do that.
And those reports are governed under 18 USC 1001, which is punishable by fine and imprisonment for false reporting?
But you don't trust medical journals even though publishing false data or falsified studies is literally career killing for any of the named authors. But the threat of of a fine if anonymous false reports are filed will prevent false anonymous reports from being filed. I'm not that naive.
What about all cause mortality increasing?
What about it? Show the study or the data (not VAERS, as I've already demonstrated, isn't verified or accurate).
Anecdotal evidence of people dying or having adverse reactions on camera after the jab?
The nurse? That was false. She did not die. She did not have a COVID vaccine reaction.
World class athletes falling over or dying during games?
Who?
ll the research showing VAIDs, myocarditis, hepatitis, being associated with repeated vaccination?
Haven't heard about VAIDs. Some minor myocarditis in adolescent males, thus it is recommended that adolescent males wait around for 15 minutes after being vaccinated. Hepatitis? What in the world is the mechanism for that even supposed to be? That's crazy.
Show the vids of people dying after getting the shot. Please vet them first, because you know I will and I'll call you a liar if you try to pass off fake stuff.
Do you have any hard evidence to base this on?
Of...the die off? Injuries? Yes, look at VAERS.
I've already schooled you on VAERS, so now you're just lying about it. VAERS itself says that the data there might not be accurate. You don't know if any of those reports have been validated.
I just schooled your ass, actually.
Um, no you didn't. Are you the one pretending to be a "scientist and engineer" who didn't know what peer review was? Or was that Crazy Russian? One of you guys.
He's a retard who thinks Fauci made up dinosaurs in order to sell films.
Keep chasing those dinosaur dreams, sport. You'll be riding a T-Rex in the sky one day. Maybe Gandalf will shoot magic up your ass, too!
So "no", then?
Enjoy that vaccine
If you could read, you'd see that I didn't take the vax. What a dipshit.
You don’t like databases of reports from private people, not Big Pharma sponsored, who have evidence of vaccine injuries and death? And those reports are governed under 18 USC 1001, which is punishable by fine and imprisonment for false reporting? That’s not good enough for you? What about all cause mortality increasing? Anecdotal evidence of people dying or having adverse reactions on camera after the jab? World class athletes falling over or dying during games? All the research showing VAIDs, myocarditis, hepatitis, being associated with repeated vaccination?
What, do you need someone to drop dead right on front of you to believe that die off is happening?
Look dude, you've gotta be reasonable about this. First, VAERS is government-controlled with zero accountability mechanisms or independent oversight. Which means that, at best it's sloppy and incomplete and at worst, complete bullshit and propaganda. wHy WouLd dEy liE aBoUt DeAtHs fRom Der vAX? Who knows? Maybe to get us riled up so we fight back and that gives them a reason for Marital Law? I don't know. Just because I don't know why they'd do that, doesn't mean they're not doing it. It's unlikely, sure, but it's possible and we have to take all possibilities into account if we are really after the truth, right?
Second, VAERS is self-reported and not verified by anyone. That alone should be a sign that caution is needed when using it as a reference or as "evidence". Yes, it's more likely that VAERS is under-reporting things, but we have no way of knowing that for sure. For all we know, some 12 year old faggot on 4chan has been submitting reports for the past 18 months...
No one needs evidence to make a report on VAERS. They just make the report and it sits there. That's it. It's fundamentally worthless for anything besides wild speculation (this is likely by design). It's basically the Reddit of the medical-industrial complex.
I don't think the vax is something a person should take and I don't support the government pushing it on people I personally like (the rest can get fucked). However, we need to be rational, honest and level-headed about what we consider to be evidence, least we be subject to being easily fooled like the normies are. Don't just believe something just because it helps your argument. That's not how the scientific method works....
The mantra "Big Pharma" is stale. I know you would like people to trust a website that itself has a disclaimer that it's data is unverified and could be inaccurate, but most people with any sense will know that it isn't a good idea to do that.
But you don't trust medical journals even though publishing false data or falsified studies is literally career killing for any of the named authors. But the threat of of a fine if anonymous false reports are filed will prevent false anonymous reports from being filed. I'm not that naive.
What about it? Show the study or the data (not VAERS, as I've already demonstrated, isn't verified or accurate).
The nurse? That was false. She did not die. She did not have a COVID vaccine reaction.
Who?
Haven't heard about VAIDs. Some minor myocarditis in adolescent males, thus it is recommended that adolescent males wait around for 15 minutes after being vaccinated. Hepatitis? What in the world is the mechanism for that even supposed to be? That's crazy.
Show the vids of people dying after getting the shot. Please vet them first, because you know I will and I'll call you a liar if you try to pass off fake stuff.