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That awkward moment when vaccine shills realize the manufacturers have just started warning investors that their vaccines are neither safe nor effective.... (media.conspiracies.win)
posted 3 years ago by KiloRomeo 3 years ago by KiloRomeo +86 / -0
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– myfriendsballs -1 points 3 years ago +1 / -2

So "no", then?

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– Junionthepipeline 1 point 3 years ago +2 / -1

Enjoy that vaccine

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– myfriendsballs 0 points 3 years ago +1 / -1

If you could read, you'd see that I didn't take the vax. What a dipshit.

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– Dorktron4Runner 1 point 3 years ago +2 / -1

You don’t like databases of reports from private people, not Big Pharma sponsored, who have evidence of vaccine injuries and death? And those reports are governed under 18 USC 1001, which is punishable by fine and imprisonment for false reporting? That’s not good enough for you? What about all cause mortality increasing? Anecdotal evidence of people dying or having adverse reactions on camera after the jab? World class athletes falling over or dying during games? All the research showing VAIDs, myocarditis, hepatitis, being associated with repeated vaccination?

What, do you need someone to drop dead right on front of you to believe that die off is happening?

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– myfriendsballs -1 points 3 years ago +0 / -1

Look dude, you've gotta be reasonable about this. First, VAERS is government-controlled with zero accountability mechanisms or independent oversight. Which means that, at best it's sloppy and incomplete and at worst, complete bullshit and propaganda. wHy WouLd dEy liE aBoUt DeAtHs fRom Der vAX? Who knows? Maybe to get us riled up so we fight back and that gives them a reason for Marital Law? I don't know. Just because I don't know why they'd do that, doesn't mean they're not doing it. It's unlikely, sure, but it's possible and we have to take all possibilities into account if we are really after the truth, right?

Second, VAERS is self-reported and not verified by anyone. That alone should be a sign that caution is needed when using it as a reference or as "evidence". Yes, it's more likely that VAERS is under-reporting things, but we have no way of knowing that for sure. For all we know, some 12 year old faggot on 4chan has been submitting reports for the past 18 months...

No one needs evidence to make a report on VAERS. They just make the report and it sits there. That's it. It's fundamentally worthless for anything besides wild speculation (this is likely by design). It's basically the Reddit of the medical-industrial complex.

I don't think the vax is something a person should take and I don't support the government pushing it on people I personally like (the rest can get fucked). However, we need to be rational, honest and level-headed about what we consider to be evidence, least we be subject to being easily fooled like the normies are. Don't just believe something just because it helps your argument. That's not how the scientific method works....

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– Dorktron4Runner 1 point 3 years ago +2 / -1

Sigh. You can trust whichever sources you want, I don’t really care.

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– myfriendsballs -1 points 3 years ago +0 / -1

You cared enough a bit ago when you typed out (and then came back and edited) your massive paragraph, but you don't any more because I wrote things you cannot refute and it would hurt your soul to re-think your argument under a new light. Just be honest and admit that I'm correct about not jumping on "evidence" just because it backs up what you want to believe... or continue to believe unverifiable things because it makes you feel good or smart to do so. That's what vax-taking normies do, not pruebloods.

No one will ever take you seriously unless you're more honest...

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– GnarlyToad -1 points 3 years ago +1 / -2

The mantra "Big Pharma" is stale. I know you would like people to trust a website that itself has a disclaimer that it's data is unverified and could be inaccurate, but most people with any sense will know that it isn't a good idea to do that.

And those reports are governed under 18 USC 1001, which is punishable by fine and imprisonment for false reporting?

But you don't trust medical journals even though publishing false data or falsified studies is literally career killing for any of the named authors. But the threat of of a fine if anonymous false reports are filed will prevent false anonymous reports from being filed. I'm not that naive.

What about all cause mortality increasing?

What about it? Show the study or the data (not VAERS, as I've already demonstrated, isn't verified or accurate).

Anecdotal evidence of people dying or having adverse reactions on camera after the jab?

The nurse? That was false. She did not die. She did not have a COVID vaccine reaction.

World class athletes falling over or dying during games?

Who?

ll the research showing VAIDs, myocarditis, hepatitis, being associated with repeated vaccination?

Haven't heard about VAIDs. Some minor myocarditis in adolescent males, thus it is recommended that adolescent males wait around for 15 minutes after being vaccinated. Hepatitis? What in the world is the mechanism for that even supposed to be? That's crazy.

Show the vids of people dying after getting the shot. Please vet them first, because you know I will and I'll call you a liar if you try to pass off fake stuff.

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– offsubject 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

Just a teensy bit o myocarditis.

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– Dorktron4Runner 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

The mantra "Big Pharma" is stale. I know you would like people to trust a website that itself has a disclaimer that it's data is unverified and could be inaccurate, but most people with any sense will know that it isn't a good idea to do that.

Not as stale as your pointless posts. The term "Big Pharma" is representative of billion dollar conglomerate businesses.

But you don't trust medical journals even though publishing false data or falsified studies is literally career killing for any of the named authors. But the threat of of a fine if anonymous false reports are filed will prevent false anonymous reports from being filed. I'm not that naive.

I don't trust medical journals sponsored by Big Pharma, whether directly or indirectly. I do trust Dr. McCullough, Dr. Malone, Dr. Mercola, and all of the doctors found in this townhall: https://rumble.com/vt62y6-covid-19-a-second-opinion.html

Do you not trust these medical experts?

What about it? Show the study or the data (not VAERS, as I've already demonstrated, isn't verified or accurate).

What do you mean? If modern medicine, which includes vaccines, isn't improving all-cause mortality rates or life expectancy, then what is the purpose? Refer to above video and discussion.

The nurse? That was false. She did not die. She did not have a COVID vaccine reaction.

Tiffany Dover? No.

Who?

Athletes. Like the ones seen collapsing here: https://rumble.com/search/video?q=collapsing%20athletes

Haven't heard about VAIDs. Some minor myocarditis in adolescent males, thus it is recommended that adolescent males wait around for 15 minutes after being vaccinated. Hepatitis? What in the world is the mechanism for that even supposed to be? That's crazy.

Show the vids of people dying after getting the shot. Please vet them first, because you know I will and I'll call you a liar if you try to pass off fake stuff.

Now you're just spreading misinformation, which is dangerous. I think you should be censored.

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– GnarlyToad -2 points 3 years ago +1 / -3

I don't trust medical journals sponsored by Big Pharma, whether directly or indirectly. I do trust Dr. McCullough, Dr. Malone, Dr. Mercola, and all of the doctors found in this townhall: https://rumble.com/vt62y6-covid-19-a-second-opinion.html

Do you not trust these medical experts?

When they publish their studies in a peer reviewed journal I will take them seriously, until then, they're less than a handful of quacks talking out of their asses. First hint: it's a Ron Johnson sponsored event. That guy is frigging dumb as a rock.

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– MadRatter -3 points 3 years ago +1 / -4

No offense, mate, but when I watch that video, I don't see anybody dying. Just people collapsing, not unknown in sports played in the heat.

Just under that one, there's one about a tennis player collapsing and it clearly says from heat-related illness.

We need documented facts that a vaccine caused the death of someone, not a suspicion that someone collapsed because they took the jab.

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