On the Betsy Ross flag, and the current 50 star 'Old Glory', heck, even the Confederate Battle Flag, there is not a single star which is inverted. All on the Betsy are angled, but the two 'foot' points of each star stand on the level for where the are in the circle.
The devil has only gotten into pentagrams recently; their first use was a Pythagorean symbol of health, hygiene, and harmony, and was a positive theistic philosophy. From there they became a symbol of Jerusalem while it still had strong old-covenant people in it, when it was strongly turned from its idolatry and ready to receive a Messiah. It was only by centuries of tweaking that the devil brought the inverted form around to typically represent him, and he still hasn't claimed the upright form in most people's minds. But everything the devil claims has been stolen and we have no need to regard a symbol as impure to us just because the impure use it typically without our knowledge. Instead, recognize that evil people use it to communicate with each other, learn the difference between those comms and sincere people meaning pure thoughts, and call out the evil done.
It is possible to claim any symbol whatsoever as corrupted, and it is possible to redeem any symbol whatsoever for the pure.
There was lots of Freemasonry, lots of questionable syncretism, and we cannot judge the founders as if we know the states of their hearts; God knows. We can judge that they gave us a great system that is still alive today, and that system is still formally subject to "our Lord" in whose year 1787 it was Constituted. If they worshipped the devil, God will judge them. If they laid the seeds of our destruction, they utterly failed because those seeds still haven't borne fruit, and I'm one American who will never be destroyed.
It's more balanced to say the devil had infiltrators then and now, and he (not the constantly shifting Masons and other Illuminati) has always been the unifying plan, with a constant result of failure. We overturned the first three central banks in this country, and we are now emboldened to overturn the fourth, the Fed. Jehu destroyed Baal worship in his generation, and we can do the same. So however badly these dudes were messed up is not ours to judge: when government fails it's our job "to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for [our] future security", just as these fine folks said.
u/My_Neovagina_Itches can do better than Ouija, where there is some risk. He merely need dare Christ to show him it's not a fairy tale. Fairies are sweet creatures compared to Jesus the greatest hellfire preacher in history, who can set you on fire with his mouth. Best of all, this method is perfectly safe for his soul.
Again, I was born and raised Christian. It's a great story to keep people in line. Underdeveloped people. People that need leading. Plan trusters. Exactly like Santa Claus.
St. Nicholas of Myra was also a great one, he physically assaulted a man for denying the deity of Christ. Much better than the fables now told about him.
What's the truth of the story for developed, sophisticated people? I've tested all the alternatives and found that Christianity is also fully satisfactory for every awakened sovereign and independent responsible thinker.
The new testament is a repackaged version of the old testament, which in itself is a repackaged version of many other, older religions and belief systems.
The story of "christ" in the latest reboot, the Bible, is an allegory for the sun.
It's c/Christianity, and one of the devil's most effective tricks is convincing people he doesn't exist. We are all for rationality anytime you want to compare who has the more illogical fairy story.
Then why do you treat us like a repository of fairy tales? And what is the basis for your judgment to be true, if it is not a basis smuggled out from within Christianity?
I broke free from my Christian programming and indoctrination. Being a Christian is putting your head down and going with the crowd in true lemming form. Maybe sheep is a more appropriate term.
Sure there's some immaturity and manipulation in the ranks, every org is infiltrated. But you're not providing anything better with "it's a fairy tale". If you want to talk tonight, tell us what's real and how you know, and I can affirm anything you say that is of truth. But don't start with criticism of others, start with what we can know positively for sure about you and your Creator.
The idea that an inverted pentagram is some evil occult symbol was made up by occultists in the mid 19th century.
Absolutely right that this is when it got out into the open. Good historians do need to read between the lines, and here recognize that alchemists had for centuries prior been using the pentagram with a broad variety of symbolisms in relation to physical stars and so it is probable that the upright/inverted paradigm to mean good/evil arose some time before it was published. Of course lots of other crazy groups had the pentagram before it was coopted by the devil in one orientation, so it's pretty public-domain of a symbol now.
As I pointed out in other recent comments, the real use of pentagrams was to express the states and their leaders as superhumans, angelic apotheoses in human form who couldn't admit publicly that's what they aspired to (except in symbolic places like the Capitol rotunda ceiling artwork). There was syncretism between godly service to Christ, and superpower manifest destiny in uncountable heavens. Only God can sort out the details in human hearts.
Yeah, I like a good conspiracy as much as the next (biological) fella, but by this point I think if the American flag was reduced to nothing but a dot on a field of white, somebody would be all like, "It'S tHe dOT oF HoRus!"
...looking over a field of pure white sheep for slaughter or something, idk, I'm sane...
They do continue reinvention because they're such constant failures but their leaders are stuck in an eternal mortality and have nothing better to do. What's very important is that all their claims to great antiquity are just more of their lies. We covenant believers had everything first, everything they have is corrupted, and I can prove it in any instance. They seize upon ambiguous seeds of falsity that they left here and there along the path of truth in history, and then when they know which way to steer the narrative they claim that the unintelligible seed was the reality all along and that we counterfeited them. So don't take their own word for their antiquity. God's Word doesn't even say we go back much more than 6000 years.
so what does the flag have to do with this? O.o
On the Betsy Ross flag, and the current 50 star 'Old Glory', heck, even the Confederate Battle Flag, there is not a single star which is inverted. All on the Betsy are angled, but the two 'foot' points of each star stand on the level for where the are in the circle.
The devil has only gotten into pentagrams recently; their first use was a Pythagorean symbol of health, hygiene, and harmony, and was a positive theistic philosophy. From there they became a symbol of Jerusalem while it still had strong old-covenant people in it, when it was strongly turned from its idolatry and ready to receive a Messiah. It was only by centuries of tweaking that the devil brought the inverted form around to typically represent him, and he still hasn't claimed the upright form in most people's minds. But everything the devil claims has been stolen and we have no need to regard a symbol as impure to us just because the impure use it typically without our knowledge. Instead, recognize that evil people use it to communicate with each other, learn the difference between those comms and sincere people meaning pure thoughts, and call out the evil done.
It is possible to claim any symbol whatsoever as corrupted, and it is possible to redeem any symbol whatsoever for the pure.
There was lots of Freemasonry, lots of questionable syncretism, and we cannot judge the founders as if we know the states of their hearts; God knows. We can judge that they gave us a great system that is still alive today, and that system is still formally subject to "our Lord" in whose year 1787 it was Constituted. If they worshipped the devil, God will judge them. If they laid the seeds of our destruction, they utterly failed because those seeds still haven't borne fruit, and I'm one American who will never be destroyed.
It's more balanced to say the devil had infiltrators then and now, and he (not the constantly shifting Masons and other Illuminati) has always been the unifying plan, with a constant result of failure. We overturned the first three central banks in this country, and we are now emboldened to overturn the fourth, the Fed. Jehu destroyed Baal worship in his generation, and we can do the same. So however badly these dudes were messed up is not ours to judge: when government fails it's our job "to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for [our] future security", just as these fine folks said.
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Idiots gotta idiot
Summon the devil?
Check out christianity.win if you like fairy tales buddy.
u/My_Neovagina_Itches can do better than Ouija, where there is some risk. He merely need dare Christ to show him it's not a fairy tale. Fairies are sweet creatures compared to Jesus the greatest hellfire preacher in history, who can set you on fire with his mouth. Best of all, this method is perfectly safe for his soul.
Again, I was born and raised Christian. It's a great story to keep people in line. Underdeveloped people. People that need leading. Plan trusters. Exactly like Santa Claus.
St. Nicholas of Myra was also a great one, he physically assaulted a man for denying the deity of Christ. Much better than the fables now told about him.
What's the truth of the story for developed, sophisticated people? I've tested all the alternatives and found that Christianity is also fully satisfactory for every awakened sovereign and independent responsible thinker.
The new testament is a repackaged version of the old testament, which in itself is a repackaged version of many other, older religions and belief systems.
The story of "christ" in the latest reboot, the Bible, is an allegory for the sun.
It's c/Christianity, and one of the devil's most effective tricks is convincing people he doesn't exist. We are all for rationality anytime you want to compare who has the more illogical fairy story.
Born and raised Christian. I am intimately familiar with it.
Then why do you treat us like a repository of fairy tales? And what is the basis for your judgment to be true, if it is not a basis smuggled out from within Christianity?
I broke free from my Christian programming and indoctrination. Being a Christian is putting your head down and going with the crowd in true lemming form. Maybe sheep is a more appropriate term.
Sure there's some immaturity and manipulation in the ranks, every org is infiltrated. But you're not providing anything better with "it's a fairy tale". If you want to talk tonight, tell us what's real and how you know, and I can affirm anything you say that is of truth. But don't start with criticism of others, start with what we can know positively for sure about you and your Creator.
Absolutely right that this is when it got out into the open. Good historians do need to read between the lines, and here recognize that alchemists had for centuries prior been using the pentagram with a broad variety of symbolisms in relation to physical stars and so it is probable that the upright/inverted paradigm to mean good/evil arose some time before it was published. Of course lots of other crazy groups had the pentagram before it was coopted by the devil in one orientation, so it's pretty public-domain of a symbol now.
As I pointed out in other recent comments, the real use of pentagrams was to express the states and their leaders as superhumans, angelic apotheoses in human form who couldn't admit publicly that's what they aspired to (except in symbolic places like the Capitol rotunda ceiling artwork). There was syncretism between godly service to Christ, and superpower manifest destiny in uncountable heavens. Only God can sort out the details in human hearts.
Yeah, I like a good conspiracy as much as the next (biological) fella, but by this point I think if the American flag was reduced to nothing but a dot on a field of white, somebody would be all like, "It'S tHe dOT oF HoRus!"
...looking over a field of pure white sheep for slaughter or something, idk, I'm sane...
Though they based this symbol upon historic Occultism
Nah the occult goes back 10k+ years. They continue to reinvent themselves but it's basically the same stuff, same symbols
They do continue reinvention because they're such constant failures but their leaders are stuck in an eternal mortality and have nothing better to do. What's very important is that all their claims to great antiquity are just more of their lies. We covenant believers had everything first, everything they have is corrupted, and I can prove it in any instance. They seize upon ambiguous seeds of falsity that they left here and there along the path of truth in history, and then when they know which way to steer the narrative they claim that the unintelligible seed was the reality all along and that we counterfeited them. So don't take their own word for their antiquity. God's Word doesn't even say we go back much more than 6000 years.