I am not Russian. I don't pick sides. Until we go to war. Then my side is my nation. But perspectives. Did it need to come to this? Plenty of time for terms. You're saying they didn't need to invade. Irrelevant when it was obvious they would.
Curiously the entire issue now is how far does this escalate. Take today's headline the news is pumping. Where it is getting very dangerous. Poland's Mig 29s. It delivered them to an American Nato base to deliver to the Ukraine. Effectively causing WW3. America goes in it commits Nato. If Poland goes in. They're not flying them as Nato. But now it commits to war when they get shot at. Then does Nato join in?
The more they force sanctions it causes, what. Reallignment or does it cause further provocation. Let's suggest it ends without further escalation. Ukraine is held or partially held by Russia. How does that geopolitical board reshape in the next 3 odd years. What has it reshaped into? What are the sides? Who is still listening?
We are talking major sanctions on oil and gas. Resources nations rely on. Outside of agriculture and other possible rearrangements. Who is listening? How does that reshape?
Ukraine should’ve put the boots to the neonazis... send them to antartica or south america like the OG nazis...They weren’t just idealists that simply believed in nazi ideals like in the US. And they aren’t very smart, according to nazi ideology they’re slavs and were intellectually inferior to the German Nazis—so... NO NASA FOR YOU!
Here’s these ukranian freedom fighters for ya:
They recruit children (hitler youth)
They believe in Fascism.
They have been shelling and killing civilians from shithole bombed out positions for 8 years.
They collaborate with top 1% earners of the Jewish
(just like the old nazis)
They kill deserters and use civilians as human shields.
They are a suicide cult (just like the ole nazis)
So, do other countries/militaries do this, too? Yes.
And they all suck.
But to have US liberals calling anyone who is right of Lassie the Dog a nazi for the last 6 years, and then have them donating to literal actual nazis...
To have them preaching that the 2A is dumb and noone should own a rifle—and then suddenly applaud the arming of a citizenry to fight invaders...
It blows my fucking mind.
Yes, clown world, however to further complicate things, some video seems to indicate the Ukrainian volunteer fighters on the eastern border were to a large degree rogue and refusing orders to obey the govt or join the official military and even threatened to fight back if Ukrainian govt forces tried to force them. To make matters worse, most of Ukraine's hard core experienced fighters were these people that said they did not have to obey unwanted orders and did not like to have to follow rules. How to subdue those fighters without fighting them and also not risk loosing a big chunk of those tht knew how to fight while still being protected against Russia and the insurgent areas that were fighting back? THe western Ukrainian govt was trying to hide their lack of control in order to get more votes and support from other countries. But it seems like what they were dealing with was both a russia/donbas insurgency as well as western Ukrainian fighters also refusing to obey orders or stand down or follow any rules. It sounds like those fighters were not going to give up that fight or let go of donbas even if the govt wanted to allow that. So it was almost a 3 way civil war with the west govt wanting one thing, the eastern end ukrainian fighters wanting another and the donbas wanting a third thing.
Yeah, those are the anarchists. (VICE embedded with those guys for a few days) So there’s globalists in the big cities, neonazis, and anarchists, communists in the east— and we’re supposed to believe this country is stable enough to join NATO? Jesus Christ it’s a thirdworld shithole posing as a western democracy... well guess what? True democracies aren’t stable at all, they are two wolves and a sheep voting on what is for dinner. That place is a powder keg. Each Oblast has it’s own culture and agenda.
I am not Russian. I don't pick sides. Until we go to war. Then my side is my nation. But perspectives. Did it need to come to this? Plenty of time for terms. You're saying they didn't need to invade. Irrelevant when it was obvious they would.
Curiously the entire issue now is how far does this escalate. Take today's headline the news is pumping. Where it is getting very dangerous. Poland's Mig 29s. It delivered them to an American Nato base to deliver to the Ukraine. Effectively causing WW3. America goes in it commits Nato. If Poland goes in. They're not flying them as Nato. But now it commits to war when they get shot at. Then does Nato join in?
The more they force sanctions it causes, what. Reallignment or does it cause further provocation. Let's suggest it ends without further escalation. Ukraine is held or partially held by Russia. How does that geopolitical board reshape in the next 3 odd years. What has it reshaped into? What are the sides? Who is still listening?
We are talking major sanctions on oil and gas. Resources nations rely on. Outside of agriculture and other possible rearrangements. Who is listening? How does that reshape?
Now where does this actually go?
Ukraine should’ve put the boots to the neonazis... send them to antartica or south america like the OG nazis...They weren’t just idealists that simply believed in nazi ideals like in the US. And they aren’t very smart, according to nazi ideology they’re slavs and were intellectually inferior to the German Nazis—so... NO NASA FOR YOU!
Here’s these ukranian freedom fighters for ya:
They recruit children (hitler youth) They believe in Fascism. They have been shelling and killing civilians from shithole bombed out positions for 8 years. They collaborate with top 1% earners of the Jewish (just like the old nazis) They kill deserters and use civilians as human shields. They are a suicide cult (just like the ole nazis)
So, do other countries/militaries do this, too? Yes. And they all suck.
But to have US liberals calling anyone who is right of Lassie the Dog a nazi for the last 6 years, and then have them donating to literal actual nazis... To have them preaching that the 2A is dumb and noone should own a rifle—and then suddenly applaud the arming of a citizenry to fight invaders... It blows my fucking mind.
Yes, clown world, however to further complicate things, some video seems to indicate the Ukrainian volunteer fighters on the eastern border were to a large degree rogue and refusing orders to obey the govt or join the official military and even threatened to fight back if Ukrainian govt forces tried to force them. To make matters worse, most of Ukraine's hard core experienced fighters were these people that said they did not have to obey unwanted orders and did not like to have to follow rules. How to subdue those fighters without fighting them and also not risk loosing a big chunk of those tht knew how to fight while still being protected against Russia and the insurgent areas that were fighting back? THe western Ukrainian govt was trying to hide their lack of control in order to get more votes and support from other countries. But it seems like what they were dealing with was both a russia/donbas insurgency as well as western Ukrainian fighters also refusing to obey orders or stand down or follow any rules. It sounds like those fighters were not going to give up that fight or let go of donbas even if the govt wanted to allow that. So it was almost a 3 way civil war with the west govt wanting one thing, the eastern end ukrainian fighters wanting another and the donbas wanting a third thing.
Yeah, those are the anarchists. (VICE embedded with those guys for a few days) So there’s globalists in the big cities, neonazis, and anarchists, communists in the east— and we’re supposed to believe this country is stable enough to join NATO? Jesus Christ it’s a thirdworld shithole posing as a western democracy... well guess what? True democracies aren’t stable at all, they are two wolves and a sheep voting on what is for dinner. That place is a powder keg. Each Oblast has it’s own culture and agenda.