I think you're dealing with Exhibit A on "how not to create a false-flag troll" here.
Anyway, in order to get a fuller picture of events, I'm interested in the Donetsk and Lugansk situation of the past eight years or so. After all, the official reason for the current operation are the claimed atrocities against ethnic Russians in the areas, leading to them declaring sovereignty. So, what's the deal there? Can you recommend any sources I can check up (in Russian is fine too)?
I think you're dealing with Exhibit A on "how not to create a false-flag troll" here.
I know. Just look at all that expression, it's so obvious. :)
I'm interested in the Donetsk and Lugansk situation of the past eight years or so.
Shortly, Donetsk and Lugansk is coal mines region with mainly Russian-speaking population. Really, even Kiev is 50/50 Russian-Ukrainian speaking city. Coal mines and whole region was under the control of Donetskie bratva connected with Yanukovich. Stupid politics of new Ukrainian government of throwing out Russian language from the list of official languages and heavy antirussian propaganda allowed Donetskie to use Russian population discontent to declare independence and save their asses from Kolomoysky and others who obviosly pretend for that territory and wanted to exterminate concurrent gang in power. Since Donetskie had strong relationship with Russia (main coal buyer) Russia secretly support that independent region with weapons and finances. Eight years there was slow withstanding between Ukrainian army and DPR/LPR forces with periodic mutual shots, but without any active battles.
All that Ukrainian deal is carefully build on the natural dual-language nature of Ukraine. Russian-speaking population was continously segregated by one mean or another, and that finally create instability and hostility between two mixed parts of Ukrainian population. When you have tensions over all territory it is easy to use them for any shady purpose.
Of course LPR/DPR population got absolutely no any support and care nor from Russia, nor from Ukraine during all that 8 years.
Even now, when some part of LPR/DPR people become refugees, nobody really cares about them.
Russians never really needed for any power or government in exUSSR. Especially for Putin.
I think you're dealing with Exhibit A on "how not to create a false-flag troll" here.
Anyway, in order to get a fuller picture of events, I'm interested in the Donetsk and Lugansk situation of the past eight years or so. After all, the official reason for the current operation are the claimed atrocities against ethnic Russians in the areas, leading to them declaring sovereignty. So, what's the deal there? Can you recommend any sources I can check up (in Russian is fine too)?
I know. Just look at all that expression, it's so obvious. :)
Shortly, Donetsk and Lugansk is coal mines region with mainly Russian-speaking population. Really, even Kiev is 50/50 Russian-Ukrainian speaking city. Coal mines and whole region was under the control of Donetskie bratva connected with Yanukovich. Stupid politics of new Ukrainian government of throwing out Russian language from the list of official languages and heavy antirussian propaganda allowed Donetskie to use Russian population discontent to declare independence and save their asses from Kolomoysky and others who obviosly pretend for that territory and wanted to exterminate concurrent gang in power. Since Donetskie had strong relationship with Russia (main coal buyer) Russia secretly support that independent region with weapons and finances. Eight years there was slow withstanding between Ukrainian army and DPR/LPR forces with periodic mutual shots, but without any active battles.
All that Ukrainian deal is carefully build on the natural dual-language nature of Ukraine. Russian-speaking population was continously segregated by one mean or another, and that finally create instability and hostility between two mixed parts of Ukrainian population. When you have tensions over all territory it is easy to use them for any shady purpose.
Of course LPR/DPR population got absolutely no any support and care nor from Russia, nor from Ukraine during all that 8 years.
Even now, when some part of LPR/DPR people become refugees, nobody really cares about them.
Russians never really needed for any power or government in exUSSR. Especially for Putin.