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Russia vs Ukraine
posted 3 years ago by dukey 3 years ago by dukey +11 / -1

Can someone explain why the Russians are in Ukraine? What are they doing? What is their objective? The news seems to skip over these important details.

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– KiloRomeo 7 points 3 years ago +8 / -1
  1. The DPR is a group of people that declared its independence from Ukraine. They live in eastern Ukraine along Russian border. Russia recognized their independence. Ukraine attacked them. Russia is intervening.
  2. DPR is conveniently geopolitically located near Crimea which, if incorporated within Russia, would give them access to the Black Sea and then the Mediterranean.
  3. NATO has been expanding further East and Russia wants a hedge of physical distance between them and their homeland.
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– dukey [S] 5 points 3 years ago +5 / -0

thanks

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– ImWhiteAndThatsOK 3 points 3 years ago +4 / -1

DPR is conveniently geopolitically located near Crimea which, if incorporated within Russia, would give them access to the Black Sea and then the Mediterranean.

I keep hearing this. Russia already has access to the Black Sea. Hundreds of miles of coastline.

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– KiloRomeo 1 point 3 years ago +2 / -1

I'd have to look it up. There was something about that region being important to connect to efforts in Syria as it relates to pipelines.

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– ImWhiteAndThatsOK 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

Sochi (Winter Olympics) is on the Black Sea. Novorossiysk is a large Black Sea port. They took control of this coast in the 1820s during the Ottoman-Russian wars.

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– KiloRomeo 1 point 3 years ago +2 / -1

Useful context: Crimea is already annexed. Russia is using it to transport pipelines. Not sure whether this is to simply shorten routes around the sea, whether it's a region of production itself, or something else. Whatever it is, there's been a lot of happenings: https://www.euronews.com/2021/09/08/us-ukraine-crisis-crimea-blast

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– Junionthepipeline 1 point 3 years ago +2 / -1

It's all Russian. Russia is simply defending there nation and interests from American aggression.

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– Dorktron4Runner 3 points 3 years ago +5 / -2

Most likely scenario.

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– amoebagrin 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

Some of your downvotes baffle me.

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– amoebagrin 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

Ahhh.

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– IGOexiled 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

It's year 21 of an approx. 30-year plan to shift Europe from Tropical oilgas to Arctic oilgas.

The war is likely just for show, it's quite possibly a nothingburger because all the big players are on the same team.

Ibrahim's Oils being replaced by Ivan's Petrol Co.

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– justaddwater 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

#110

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– NdmsdVdrtrstn 1 point 3 years ago +2 / -1

Afaik putin said to stop otan bases in ukraine and otan didnt leave so he is bombing ukraine because of that( that is what the narrative is saying ). But yea he can be a schwab wef puppet and playing a smoke curtain for a lot of other things.. Remember crimea too.. Yea idk

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