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Do we support self-determination or do we think a world order in which stronger nations gobble up weaker ones is fine? (media.communities.win)
posted 3 years ago by OriginalPatriot 3 years ago by OriginalPatriot +4 / -1
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– IGOexiled 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0

Ukraine is Russia. As far as I'm concerned, this is an internal conflict. Internal conflicts are scripted by the ruling powers.

Britain and Russia have been in lockstep for almost a thousand years, and since the Vietnam war, the US has also been reintroduced into the Kremlin's cabal.

Franz Ferdinand's death (ww1) severed Europe from the cabal (prompting Hitler's attempt at consolidation of European power).

Or maybe I'm completely wrong and none of this is about raping Europe in their sleep.

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– OriginalPatriot [S] 0 points 3 years ago +2 / -2

Ukraine isn't Russia. Your premise is false. Ukraine is an independent country that even Russia recognized. It was only a part of the USSR as an independent socialist republic.When the Soviet Union ceased to exist, Ukraine just was no longer part of a union of independent socialist republics.

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– Junionthepipeline 1 point 3 years ago +2 / -1

You better history youngin

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– OriginalPatriot [S] -1 points 3 years ago +1 / -2

I know I am better history.

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– no_ez 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

I support my family

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– OriginalPatriot [S] 0 points 3 years ago +1 / -1

Do you support your family or does the government through SSI?

JK! But, really, the number of anti-government types who are on SSI just astounds me. (And, no, you don't pay into SSI. You pay into Social Security. SSI comes out of the general funds).

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– no_ez 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

Fuck that commie ponzi bullshit. Hell No.

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– OriginalPatriot [S] 0 points 3 years ago +1 / -1

Social Security is the ponzi scheme. SSI is direct from general funds.

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– forinfren 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

I support the recognition and enforcement of single, open standards, instead of ignoring the invasive policies of countries from NATO and the EU - often involving sovereign nations literally an ocean apart - only to clutch pearls in indignation when Russia acts to prevent a neighboring country from providing military bases and missile installations to its strategic enemies.

And before anyone cries the favorite liberal buzzword of "whataboutism" - no, it's not whataboutism for others to hold you to the same standard you wish to judge them by and enforce on them. It's not whataboutism to point out every pathetic excuse the US had for artificially fueling civil conflicts in the Balkans, or invading the Middle East under false pretenses. It's not whataboutism to point out that the EU supported those acts, both politically and militarily, so they have no leg to stand on now.

Safe to say, it's not the Russians who invented the game of "send troops abroad and pretend you're a hero for it". They're just the ones playing the current round better than anyone else. And the fact that the current crop of wailing moralists ignore all the previous rounds - that most of them are still old enough to remember - shows exactly what their morals consist of, and what they really support - their own agendas, and their own reputation for speaking out only when it's popular to do so.

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– OriginalPatriot [S] 1 point 3 years ago +3 / -2

This is going to be very uncomfortable for the fascist wing of the Republican party.

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– KiloRomeo 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0

Lol i think you mean the fascist wrong on the left. Ukraine has literally Nazi stormtrooper units as part of their army. Ukraine has been stacking their own citizens. I'm not siding with Russia but wake up

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– OriginalPatriot [S] 0 points 3 years ago +2 / -2

Ukraine has the Azov Brigade that was subsumed into the national guard following the 2014 conflict. That's true. But overall the Ukrainians aren't Nazis.

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– KiloRomeo 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

They got fully recognized and fit veteran status in 2014 but they've been around since the 40s....

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– OriginalPatriot [S] 1 point 3 years ago +2 / -1

Yes, just as I said. Ukrainians overall are not Nazis. Zelenskyy is not a Nazi.

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– Smokratez 0 points 3 years ago +2 / -2

Yeah, Zelnsky is a jew. jews are responsible for white suffering and white genocide.

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– Junionthepipeline 1 point 3 years ago +2 / -1

They are Russian though.

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– OriginalPatriot [S] 0 points 3 years ago +2 / -2

No, they're not. They weren't even "Russian" during the Soviet era. Ukraine was an independent socialist republic, not "Russian."

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– Smokratez -1 points 3 years ago +1 / -2

the issue in ukraine isn't nazis. the country is being taken over by jews, and russia is blamed for it

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– bluebloodtrueblood 1 point 3 years ago +4 / -3

Not really. Cognitive dissonance is their specialty. Right after projection.

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– OriginalPatriot [S] 1 point 3 years ago +2 / -1

True.

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