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the slippery slope is real in every single thing
OK. But the statement as written is valid. We only prosecute those who have committed crimes, not those who have thought about committing crimes. That would be a Thoughtcrime.
Now what's the purpose of distinguishing between the two (sex crime against children vs attraction to children) by the media, other than to normalize attraction to children? Normalize it by creating a distinction, that didn't exist in the minds of people, between the actual molestation (sex crime) and the attraction that leads to it (pedophilia), first being legally punishable and the second not. Thus. drawing the people's hatred to the first, and sparing the second. They're implying that since the second is not legally punishable, it should be socially acceptable too.
Firstly: Once something is socially acceptable, then the laws can be amended accordingly. Why should social and moral correctness adhere to legal correctness, and not vice versa?
Secondly: Should we accept it? If not, then why make such statements? If pedophiles don't advertise themselves, nobody has a problem with them. What is the purpose of advertising themselves than to want acceptability for it (EDIT: unless they want help, which is fine)? I think it's not a normal condition by any means, and indicates some kind of unresolved mental issues. We should aim to treat it.
The intent behind making such statements is what people here are concerned with, and not its correctness. You're focused on the latter, while not addressing the former. Hence the part about slippery slopes is relevant.
I'm sorry. I have no idea what you are thinking.
The definition of pedophilia IS a mental condition, it is not 'an indication' of a mental condition. When you abandon the use of words as defined, you abandon all logic. You become no better than an animal, emoting and not thinking.
Now lets play a little thought experiment.
Is it illegal for me to want to kill my neighbor? No.
When does it become illegal? When I commit a crime.
Crime = Crime (Action)
Broad statements. Speaking for a collective group. Caring about their opinions over facts. Reddit+
In your reply you are actively using the logic you are claiming to decry, to denounce said logic. This is not logic.
Rape = Rape (Action)
Thoughts = Thoughts (non action)
You asked this Question. How is this even a normal thought in your head?
Why would I debate such nonsense as normal?
How did you become so lost?
Ok then we both agree that pedophilia is a sickness that should not be accepted in society. Let's continue to ostracize pedophiles who advertise themselves (how else would we know?), unless it's for seeking help. You can disregard my other statements in that case. I'm not trying to win an argument with you.
But it is socially unacceptable :) Just like pedophilia is socially unacceptable, and only sex crime is legally unacceptable :)
Correct. It is to be shunned and not accepted as a normal aspect of society.
Not really though. The first sentence implies that it’s incorrect to associate the thought with the crime. Any woman could be a prostitute but those in brothels are there for a reason. Thus there’s a logical fallacy in their post that makes it untrue.
The crime is rape and molestation. (chomo or rapist)
Pedophilia is an inappropriate urge, and not an orientation or physical act. (mental condition, attraction)
People rape those they are not attracted to, based on opportunity. (sex crime)
A pedophile that never harms a child, or is inappropriate with, around, or in regards to one is not a criminal, nor a threat to society. (thought criminal)
The logical fallacy happened in your reply. When you switched out the words 'synonymous' for the word 'associate' And then went on to bend reality with an analogy not only straining for logic, but literally using the term "Could be" as a direct correlation, while simultaneously sharing no comparative narrative elements to the article, beyond being sexual in nature. Which is exactly how not to use an analogy.
Thus I ended my reply while using the word 'thus', making me sound smarter than I truly am, and making me the victor.
You missed the point of my reply entirely. The original post implies there’s no connection. You’re clearly motivated to misinterpret me so there’s no point to discussing with you further.
I was motivated to NOT misinterpret the above screen shot, and to express this to you in full. As you originally replied to me, and not the other way around.
This is too nuanced for the majority of the people that post on this forum.
Many people allow words to exist in an undefined state, causing them to shape their arguments through emotional responses. This is used by social media companies to destroy a society, using slippery logic that inverts true meaning and motivations.
In this case, the blurring of terminology, causes a silent minority to shield criminals out of fear for their own safety, via the court of popular opinion. Free helicopter rides anybody?
As for the actual article the above excerpt is from. It is a real shit show from top to bottom, jumping from point to point, with little good reason for even existing.
I think what we are missing here however, is the fact that the whole article is written as a series of subjective statements, the author not only putting off these statements on others, but putting us off balance, and causing emotional responses.
This is intentional. As you are not meant to think about what it is you are reading, but only to react emotionally and to fill in the blanks of the narrative, with your own subjective opinions.
Yes, that is exactly how the author wanted you to respond, just as they would care for someone reading it in a more clinic manner to respond as I have earlier, by simply agreeing that the base logic is sound, thus generating 'engagement'.
This is pure psychological manipulation and nothing more. Or, as you have stated, it's a "click-bait creepy article".
Ehhhhh... so you're arguing that you're only a pedo if you act on it?
The true end game of the LGBT movement perpetuated by Jews. (Sabbatean Frankist's)
Look over here, folks. We have a real live retard.
Yeah, his name is Adagio.
Burn them.
Some haven't had the chance/opportunity/courage to abuse kids yet!