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Cloudfare is satanic
posted 3 years ago by alltheleavesarebrown 3 years ago by alltheleavesarebrown +19 / -4

Do not use

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– Charles1525 4 points 3 years ago +4 / -0

There are no clouds, just someone else's computer@! (that the feds can easily monitor too..)

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– deleted 4 points 3 years ago +5 / -1
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– CrazyRussian 8 points 3 years ago +9 / -1

Cloudflare DDoS service act like man-in-the-middle between user and "protected" site. So, all data you exchnage with the site behind cloudflare is tracked, stored, studied and sold.

conspiracies.win is behind cloudflare too. It is insane, but most site owners are obsessed with that crap. In any case, cloudflare DDoS "protection" does not work at all. Site became inaccessible for user, just like without that crap. The only difference is that user see a nifty page with error instead of timeout.

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– Behar 1 point 3 years ago +2 / -1

If so, why are you here?

No privacy in the internet. If you want perfect privacy, go offline, don't use computers & live in the cottage.

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– CrazyRussian 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0

If so, why are you here?

Living in Russia I don't care about US three-letter agencies and corporations. That is why I spend time here, talking with fellows about conspiracies, and that is why I don't spend time talking on any Russian conspiracy sites.

No privacy in the internet. If you want perfect privacy, go offline, don't use computers & live in the cottage.

When I need perfect privacy, I just use i2p, tox and other technologies. And living in cottage in no case mean being offline and living without computers.

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– deleted 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0
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– CrazyRussian 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

How is vaxine shit in russia?

Failed. Most people don't give a shit about vaxx and highly suspicious, especially with different Jewish Ginzburgs on top of all that vaxx hoax. There was initially some weak enthusiasm about vaccines among the most convinceable, but since the people figured out that vaxx will not allow them to not wear the masks in public places or travel abroad and after first severe side effects among vaccinated relatives or friends most denied vaxx at all.

Western media says russia is making laws to vaxx people, is this true?

Nobody cares about laws in Russia. Especially stupid ones.

There was attempts to push the federal QR-codes/vaxx passports laws, but that shit was quickly retracted as the authorities ratings fall below the floor.

Interesting that QR-codes (in whole) are highly anticipated by the main Putin electorate (pensionaries, state bureaucrats, military, etc.), most account them as mark of the beast. So Putin seriously afraid that his electorate will never forgive and forget that thing, so he ordered parliament to push the brakes on that law. Parliament hearings on that dumb shit was delayed to Feb 2022 and hardly that law would ever pass.

Finally all that coronahoax crap is still completely illegal. Federal authorities leave all decisions to the regional authorities to keep hands clear, but regional authorites could not issue any local orders that contradict to federal laws. So all regional orders about masks, vaxx or any other crap are illegal.

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– deleted 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0
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– Behar 0 points 3 years ago +1 / -1

Hardware backdoor is a thing. Both AMD & Intel have it. ARM? Maybe it has.

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– CrazyRussian 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

Hardware backdoor is a thing. Both AMD & Intel have it.

Only if some malicious third-party have a direct access to your local network and your device with AMD/Intel have ME with AMT. Even in that case it could be very tricky to do something meaningful if you don't use Windows.

In any case I just don't allow third-party in my local network.

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– deleted 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0
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– CrazyRussian 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

They are. Unless you are not in local network, you can't exploit that things. To break into local network, even through WiFi you have to get a physical access to the hardware.

All that "management" crap use regular network adapters for connection and does not have any dedicated transievers to work around. Since you control your local network, there are no way for third-party to get to that "management".

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– deleted 1 point 3 years ago +2 / -1
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– klausi -2 points 3 years ago +1 / -3

... any case, cloudflare DDoS "protection" does not work at all.

How would you know? isn't the point that you won't notice it when it's working ?

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– CrazyRussian 3 points 3 years ago +4 / -1

DDoS attack primary goal is to make the target server unreacheable for users. It is in the name - Distributed Denial of Service attack. If user can't access the service, i.e. denied of service, the goal of DDoS is reached. Cloudflare prevents only the flooding of server with a storm of requests. And it prevents it by not forwarding them to the server. Yes, target server continue to work, but nobody could access it, because Cloudflare drop requests. In any case user denied from service.

So, such DDoS "prevention" have no sense at all, since users still denied from service. In the best case, only thing server owner get is lower incoming traffic during DDoS, and that's all.

Marketing lies of cloudflare does not make the whole thing work. Just swindle server owners into selling all their users to the hands of that shitty BigBrother company that will mitm even into SSL connections (yes, in any mode Cloudflare decrypt trafic from target server and encrypt trafic for users with their own certificate - check lock icon in your URL bar for conspiracies.win - it will be Cloudflare certificate).

I would not be surprised if it will be revealed that cloudflare organize and do all that DDoS attacks on the sites that will never really could become a target of real DDoS just to convince site owners to buy into cloudflare man-in-the-middle crap.

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– CrazyRussian 3 points 3 years ago +5 / -2

That is a part of my job, dealing with DDoS and knowing how this things works.

Cloudflare is nothing more than man-in-the-middle surveillance company. It does not protect a service from DDoS at all. Even their public DNS service (1.1.1.1 f.e.) is nothing more than collecting information about what sites users visit and other tracking info about users. CDN is the same surveillance shit too.

Best DDoS protection is BGP blackholing. Cloudflare don't use it. Best DNS service is your own bind with list of root servers. Best CDN is your own servers. In no case Cloudflare services is necessary or even slightly better. In every case Cloudflare services is worse and insecure. It is also unreliable, just recall July 2019. And do censorship, recall the story with 8chan. Cloudflare is a cancer of internet and should be avoided at any cost.

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– THE_NIGGER_RAPIST 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

Thanks for explaining this

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– deleted 0 points 3 years ago +1 / -1
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– CrazyRussian 0 points 3 years ago +1 / -1

So, you have no any real counterarguments. Never had any doubts, because you just can't have them. :)

Are your "job" Cloudflare marketing? :)

PS: Most people are here for discussions and thinking, that inevitably implies arguing. Since you are not here to argue, what are you here for? Damage control? Marketing? Surveillance?

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– klausi 0 points 3 years ago +1 / -1

Lol, you have no fucking idea what you are talking about

Cloudflare prevents only the flooding of server with a storm of requests. And it prevents it by not forwarding them to the server. Yes, target server continue to work, but nobody could access it, because Cloudflare drop requests. In any case user denied from service.

this actually made my day, thx for that

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– CrazyRussian 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

Lol, you have no fucking idea what you are talking about

So, you have an idea. So share it with class. It could be funny, if you will not cite all that dumb Cloudflare marketing bullshit.

this actually made my day, thx for that

Try to do the same for others.

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